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    ikari is offline Senior Member Long Time Member
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    Just asking; isnt the Eternal Tsukiyomi meant to be the ULTIMATE genjutsu? Thats like the main reason everyones going to be fighting Madara right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Witcher View Post
    Wow. That was quick.

    1. The 'cliffhanger' at the end was nothing. Given the shot of Sasuke's genjutsu eye it'll probably just result in another genjutsu outcome(Izanami! The evolution of Tsukuyomi! Jesuke surpasses Itachi again!)
    'My Sharinghax'
    3. I'm not sure about the 'nearly blind' thing. Considering Sasuke's used the Mangekyo roughly four times more than he had in the 8-tails arc he should have already started noticing the effects in the Danzo fight(with his opponent attacking from a distance). I have a feeling Kishit changed his mind and slowed down the progress of the Uchiha blindness('No more, my poor son. Besides Itachi had to wait several years to become blind...').
    If Izanagi is a genjutsu, would it be more logical that Izanami would be ninjutsu? In every case, Izanami would rape the user's eye as well.
    Danzo must still have Sharingans spares at home to fight like that -___-*

    I like your pun, Witcher (like the Kishit one)

    We don't really know what kind of life Itachi had after the massacre of the Uchihas. We can assume Danzo fought him (at least he took a Tsukiyomi to tell Sasuke's one is less effective), etc ...
    I'm not sure Sasuke will be affected by lost of sight during the fight (it could come as well from the loss of blood), but after the fight, just like what happened after Killerbee's fight.
    Did you play Valkyrie Profile Covenant of The Plume? The main character activates the power of the plume on a character who becomes really strong during the fight. Then he feels theside effects and dies after the battle is finished.
    Well, for Izanagi, the side effects seem to come just after the 60 seconds are passed.
    So nothing is sure.
    Waiting for Kishi's hints of explanations, once again ^^

    @Ikari : The Eye Moon Plan would be an endless or infinite Tsukiyomi on every creature on Earth without any drawbacks (supposedly) on Madara.

    And Izanagi is not an MS ability, just Sharinghax.
    With the hypothesis Madara used Izanagi to escape Hashirama (we see a picture of his shadow pierced by ten swords or something), it was on a last resort and couldn't use his EMS (loss of chakra?)
    Only assumptions.
    Like Ivanov, I don't have a lot to say about the chapter, that might explain why I constantly sidetrack ^^ Sorry
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    It is, i guess it's better than Izanagi. You get to control everyone.

    Quote Originally Posted by black flash View Post
    ^Yep Izanagi could have been the jutsu he used on the 1st hokage, and that's the reason why people thought he was dead.
    Oh brilliant answer. Guess we have some answers now.


    Quote Originally Posted by R3dKnight View Post
    we're talking about Jesuke here.
    the only guy to survive an atomic bomb explosion like it was nothing.
    Ah but it wasn't "like nothing". He got hit just before he left, and he was seriously worn out after that. By contrast, Madara, who also survived, must've teleported out of the explosion...like it was nothing. Haha.

    Danzo better win this battle. You know it's not good when you're rooting for him to win. But I think it's pretty obvious. Danzo survives at least, because I think there was one more eye left on his hand on the second last page. Even if that turns out to have closed, I think Danzo could pull a trick and use his right Sharingan. Sasuke...probably a genjutsu, which would be lame. I know that either way Sasuke survives, but they could at least give him a big fatal blow from Danzo, even if he can be healed later. And please let him start losing his eyesight. I'll be real happy if he's wearing spectacles the next chapter

    An OK chapter but cliffhangers like that are repetitive and lame. Seeing Danzo fight is cool but he spams his Sharingan even more than Sasuke, though I like his various wind techs and his cool Baku summon. Next week will be the end of the battle, so at least give us half of it with Naruto, please.

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    i dont believe he used izanagi on the first...i mean the dude was smart enough to become hokage, he's gotta know "no body, no crime" rule......it might have looked like he died...bu there wouldnt be a body.

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    I wonder if there is any possible way for Naruto to be redeemed and even stand a chance against defeating Sasuke one day, without Sasuke having like some huge disadvantage ie just fought God himself or just lost both eyes in a fight with two kages then fight Naruto. LOL.
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    Nice chapter, the fight got more interesting since more conventional ninja techniques were used in the middle of the bloodline bullshit orgy.

    1- This chapter was HORRIBLY drawn, in the first panels alone, Sasuke looks like he was draw in 15 seconds, the only decent looking pages were the Chimera double spread and the last double spread as well.

    2 - Looks like Izanagi is a step up from Tsukyomi as the "ultimate genjutsu" who can alter reality itself, so Danzou was really killed all those times but he "illusioned" himself back to life. Having the Sharigans on his arm allows him to spam the technique. It works in such a way that is loosely based on Izanagi's myth. I still say this shit should belong to the Byakugan.

    3 - So Izanami should be a step up from Amaterasu? I really don't know what the fuck Kishi will pull out of it, not that i particularly care if it's Sasuke who pulls that shit put of nowhere.

    4 - At least the fight ends next chapter. I kinda like Danzou and his grey based morality so i hope he doesn't die.
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    ^Yeah. I used to think Danzo was evil but the way he argued his points at the summit...you gotta hand it to him, he's got conviction. Unlike Madara who clearly does what he's doing for himself (though he doesn't come off as very villainous) Danzo seems to really think he's doing what's right.

    I wonder, do you need MS to use Izanagi? I'd say you don't, seeing as how Danzo's eyes didn't have MS and we haven't seen his right eye use MS either. If so then that means even ordinary Uchiha can use an MS-level tech, but at a higher cost than usual.

    And agreed, some of the art looked a bit...sketchy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by black flash View Post
    Well people can have a little hope now that Sasuke won't get Izanagi, seen as how you can only use it once then go blind.
    - Maybe not. If what we've learned about the Uchiha is true and stealing the eyes of your brother produces an eye that 'never goes blind' or never truly shuts, maybe someone like say Madara can use the technique over and over and over again, going blind for a second and then popping back to normal and then going blind again, etc. We've assumed his technique to avoid attacks was based on a space-time jutsu because he seems to have a talent with teleporting himself and other people. But what if it isn't? What if the space/time ability is simply a more advanced/trained form of Kakashi's ability? Orochimaru was obsessed with immortality and collecting power. Clearly he and Danzo were playing with gaining that immortality through the Sharingan and this forbidden technique, but what if Oro realized there was a way to gain a permanent immortality/invulnerability through the technique? It would explain a great many things.

    On the other hand, maybe you're right and they can only use the technique once. And like people are suggesting that's how he escaped certain death at the hands of the 1st Hokage. Perhaps one of his eyes went blind from using the technique and that's why we only see one of his eyes? It would explain why Itachi considered Madara crippled and a 'shell of his former self'. Either way I still am not convinced Madara is 'complete', I think either he's gone blind in one eye from using this technique or his eyes are the only real immortal thing about him and have been 'passed' onto to somebody else and he has taken over their body. Otherwise why go to such lengths to hide his face? We know what Madara looks like, unless the person under the mask doesn't look like Madara.

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    What does Madara mean here?
    How can he make his attacks real? Arenīt they already real? Or does he make them more powerful? What did I miss? xDD

    And I really like seeing these wind attacks! I hope this is a foreshadowing of Narutoīs future skills and techs (yeah, right -.-").

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    the overall idea is that danzo attacks sasuke......and sasuke's overdoing it using up his chakra defending himself.and every attack sasuke lands on danzou is useless cause danzo nullifies that using his technique.
    kinda like the movie next....the scene toward the end where nicholas cage dodges the guy with the gun...

 

 
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