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    DrKevin is offline Member Frequent Poster
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    I tend to agree, I hope Naruto's collapsing has less to do with this whole drama-llama that sat in his lap and more to do with some kind of infection or attack, or perhaps Itachi. Although I do feel sorry for the poor guy. I mean really, going from "I'm going to save Sasuke!" to learning that Sasuke is (a) a terrorist (b) bent on killing your entire village (c) might just be justified in doing do, only to have (d) the love of your life show-up and confess her feelings to you as (e) a cruel attempt to emotionally manipulate you into abandoning your friend because (f) she has every intention of murdering him herself, and now (g) a world-war has sprung up around/because of you and (h) your good friend Gaara is basically telling you to man-up and kill your other friend to prove you can (i) be the hokage, while at the same time doing so would (j) break all your morals you fought all your life to believe in and (k) would destroy the legacy your teacher entrusted in you making you (l) no better than Pain and (m) make Pain completely justified in his reasoning and (n) make Naruto a massive, hypocrite.

    And yet if he doesn't do anything (o) Sasuke continues his ridiculous decent into madness and destroys the whole planet in emo-nerd temper tantrum.

    I wouldn't be surprised if he's having an anxiety attack, Naruto is going to need some f'ing lorazepam by the time this arc is through.

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    on a side note:
    Danzo:
    I hate to admit it, but what he said actually seemed... logical and not exactly as evil as he normally portrayed... well, aside from the fact that he was using that wierd ass arm of his, but still. Obviously there is something lost in translation between Danzo and Sasuke somewhere in the conversation, but that was to be expected.

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    What Danzo said only makes sense if he himself is ready for a sacrifice for a greater cause. Did Itachi die for the sake of the village or the elders, in Danzo's view? I think this speech is an attempt by Danzo to manipulate Sasuke, to confuse him at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Witcher View Post
    Like I said in the spoiler thread, this is blatant, intentional character assassination. And why is he suddenly sweating in the snowy weather?
    it's not an character assassination (at least not yet), we never get to see the end of it yet. there are still alot of possibilities that might happen.... so lets just hope for the best for the next time we see naruto again.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bledge View Post
    But yeah, without an explanation, I agree with your argumentation, and I must agree as well with (I think it's) Ivanov when he says in the spoiler thread that it can come out of exhaustion. How much time did he have to rest from Pain fight
    i did not say he is exhausted... i say he is having a mild hart attack ^_^
    Quote Originally Posted by Heartlessfang View Post
    ^ nah, I'm thinking it's something else. He was clutching his chest as he fell, so it's one of two things:
    kyuubi or Itachi.
    this is the one i like.. i'm hoping for itachi... or to take it to the extreme itachi, the third and the frog key are all there figuring a way to make the kyuubi under naruto's control...
    the third: well we got an uchiha here so i guess it'll work
    itachi: i dunno old man, i never try this one before
    the key: i thought you're a genius
    itachi: well even a genius has their time of doubt
    the third: not to worry, i've read that an uchiha has the ability to control it
    kyuubi: heh..... like i wanna be your pet...
    the third: oh no, not my pet... my sons
    naruto: no wonder my chest hurt, this place is getting crowded

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrKevin View Post
    I tend to agree, I hope Naruto's collapsing has less to do with this whole drama-llama that sat in his lap and more to do with some kind of infection or attack, or perhaps Itachi. Although I do feel sorry for the poor guy. I mean really, going from "I'm going to save Sasuke!" to learning that Sasuke is (a) a terrorist (b) bent on killing your entire village (c) might just be justified in doing do, only to have (d) the love of your life show-up and confess her feelings to you as (e) a cruel attempt to emotionally manipulate you into abandoning your friend because (f) she has every intention of murdering him herself, and now (g) a world-war has sprung up around/because of you and (h) your good friend Gaara is basically telling you to man-up and kill your other friend to prove you can (i) be the hokage, while at the same time doing so would (j) break all your morals you fought all your life to believe in and (k) would destroy the legacy your teacher entrusted in you making you (l) no better than Pain and (m) make Pain completely justified in his reasoning and (n) make Naruto a massive, hypocrite.

    And yet if he doesn't do anything (o) Sasuke continues his ridiculous decent into madness and destroys the whole planet in emo-nerd temper tantrum.

    I wouldn't be surprised if he's having an anxiety attack, Naruto is going to need some f'ing lorazepam by the time this arc is through.



    Thats a really intersting way at putting it! although when I first read the chapter...i skipped all the flashbacks that I had seen for like 10 chapters till now that kishi shown again...then when he fainted...

    I /facepalmed I can understand all that stuff you said and hed be a little upset but one chapter of sulking is enough, I thought these people were ninjas, not Gundam Pilots (ba dum dish)
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    Don't know really, hope the fight will eb something decent at least.

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    I don't agree that Kishimoto is employing character assassination on Naruto. It's the main character of his series and if he didn't want Naruto anymore he'd either end the manga and start a new one with Sasuke or he'd have Sasuke take over this one. Sasuke stealing the spotlight with some cool moves and more action does not mean he is favouring him. You may say Sasuke is portrayed as super-powerful and cool, but bear in mind he is also shown as pretty evil now and almost beyond redemption. I still think that Kishi wouldn't have had Naruto save Konoha and become a hero (which is more than anything Sasuke's done) if he didn't like him.

    But I do agree entirely that this whole Naruto scene at that stupid inn place has been dragged on far too long. They could at least start travelling somewhere while discussing, or they could actually GO INSIDE and enjoy some warmth and maybe a hot drink while talking. Naruto's reaction has also been dragged on too long. I understand Kishimoto's trying to portray some sort of inner turmoil within Naruto, and it's about time Naruto started questioning the wisdom of just blindly chasing Sasuke, but this is a bit overkill. If it turns out the hyperventilating's due to something else it won't be so bad.

    Sasuke vs. Danzo started a bit lame when Danzo got caught so quickly but it gets obvious Danzo's just bluffing. So it's not too bad, Danzo gets the jump on Sasuke and get more of the battle next week. I want to know what the use of having Sharingans in your arms is. Does that mean Danzo can see from his right arm? Or does it just mean he can cast genjutsu more easily?

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    So all next chapter will be a genjutsu battle huh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kidistight View Post
    So all next chapter will be a genjutsu battle huh.
    posibilities for next chapter...
    1. if kishi decide to show the whole world how much he love sasuke, then even though we've already seen so much sasuke at the summit before, we gonna se alot of him vs danzo... and prolly even more genjutsu than sasuke vs itachi

    2. if kishi wanna reveal to us bout the mystery that is naruto, then we gonna know what happen to him (itachi's crow expected)

    3. if kishi gonna pile up his fans' hate toward this manga b4 he gave us his big surprise at the new year (if there is any), then we will see what happen to the manipulative bitch suicide arc..... i believe he did the same thing few times before


    .... i guess that's all... are there any other idea?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Witcher View Post
    I can't understand Kishimoto. Either he's developed a deep resentment towards Naruto or his love towards Sasuke has grown so much that he's willing to sabotage every other character for his sake. I mean, weren't the last few chapters worth of Naruto sulking enough? Or the begging and groveling before that? What's the use of showing what's essentially the same thing again and again? Like I said in the spoiler thread, this is blatant, intentional character assassination. And why is he suddenly sweating in the snowy weather?

    From the looks of it a Sakura/Konoha kids vs Sasuke confrontation may be planned, giving Kishi yet more opportunities to glority Jesuke in battle. The only silver lining there would be the possibility of Kakashi joining in.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bledge View Post
    This chapter went sooooo early!
    I don't know what I'll do tomorrow

    The more I think about it, the more I think Kishi is continuing the parallel between Naruto and Sasuke.

    Yea... thats really wat he's doing. He wants to make them such extreme opposites of each other so Sasuke's the war hawk and naruto's the dove. Its suks guys...we may never get to see the super ultra ultimate badass naruto we deserve. That role is for Sasuke.

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