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    Deathbringerpt is offline Senior Member Always Around
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Witcher View Post
    Bad example. The guy who's chakra was more sinister than Kyuubi isn't himself considered outright evil and is likely to become a good guy by the end of the manga. I don't see why the Kyuubi would be beyond reasoning if he isn't.
    How is that a bad example? The Kyuubi outright admits that the only one to ever had a "darker" Chakra than his own is the main antagonist of the series.

    He was never put in any kind of positive light or ever given the benefit of the doubt in the entire series, he's slowly killing Naruto and he couldn't give less of a shit about him, he just wants to be kept alive until he finally fully possess Naruto, which he tried several times already, including in the latest Konoha invasion where you know, the 4th Hokage, the series messiah, told him to fuck off and stay inside his son's seal.

    Just because a Tailed Beast is being unjustly possessed and used as war tool by human people that doesn't suddenly make him an misunderstood beast who actually deep down is all chocolate and sugar.

    When Shukkaku possessed Gaara in the first Konoha invasion he wasn't "Hey, i'm in control now! Now i'll take revenge against the fuckers that did this to me!" it was more like "Hey, iīm free! Now i can wreck shit up while i sing about it! Fuck yeah!"

    The number of tails and quantity of chakra is completely irrelevant to whether a Tailed beast is evil or not, Hachibi's not evil but so far he seems to be the exception to the rule since we have no idea about the personality of every other one.

    Ao has more personality hense would be the better candidate to come out of this predicament alive. Fuu's gonna switch to early then Ao's gonna fall in a way that it cuts the binding on his hands. As stupid as this may sounds Ao has to kool of a personality to die. If after the body swap he was freaking out histerically like a chicken with its head cut off then he'd die. Hes handling this situation way to calmly, i personally would've been freaking out if i was in a puppet's body staring up at my enemy in my body. Hopefully this all happens before the Mizukage and chujuro shows up though, or else they'll take the Fuu imposter Ao for the real deal.
    Ao is like the Kakashi of the Mist village. Composed and cool motherfucker.
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    Kyubi 1

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    Indeed, Kyubi doesn't seem to be a very nice fox ^^

    I re read the chapters and I didn't remember the 4th praised so much Madara.

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    i don't actually read all the previous post but if u guys are talking about kyuubi conversation with sasuke then i have to say this:
    from the manga volume book i have, kyuubi said: "sharingan, so this is the power of that cursed bloodline" then later he said: "a chakra that is more cursed (damned) then mine".

    soo here is my old theory: that all the uchiha is cursed. and the most cursed one of all is madara. and the kyuubi is also cursed....

    and after what madara has been said all this time, then it's indeed true, all uchiha do carry a cursed in their blood... and after finding out the juubi thingy, then kyuubi also has a cursed of his own, as if he is prolly the most important key to unleash the juubi, and he know about that verywell...

    so, to make it short kyuubi is indeed a genius.. not like other bijuu who are silly (, cocky (1), dumb (3), emo (2)... and prolly more alike for the others. and also the reason why he was so fricking crazy all this time IS because of that knowledge he got (well if u find out that you are just a part of this big thing that will end the world u prolly went mad too... it's like those mad scientist who went to a mental house)

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    The 3rd Bijuu probably isnīt dumb, he just wasnīt in a human where he could have developed a personality...

    And the cursed theory isnīt all that bad, since all of them are connected to this Rikudou(sp?) Sennin. The Uchiha are his descendants & the Juubi was in him, then he was split into the other beasts...

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    The 3 tails was in the child Mizukage at one point in time. Dont know how long ago that was from the current story line though.

    "He is now declaring his words to the WORLD!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathbringerpt View Post
    How is that a bad example? The Kyuubi outright admits that the only one to ever had a "darker" Chakra than his own is the main antagonist of the series.
    I was very clearly referring to Sasuke, who in that line was also said to have a "darker" chakra than Kyuubi.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deathbringerpt View Post
    He was never put in any kind of positive light or ever given the benefit of the doubt in the entire series, he's slowly killing Naruto and he couldn't give less of a shit about him, he just wants to be kept alive until he finally fully possess Naruto, which he tried several times already, including in the latest Konoha invasion where you know, the 4th Hokage, the series messiah, told him to fuck off and stay inside his son's seal.
    What Bijuu aside from Hachibi has ever been described positively? And what is this evil you are referring to? Attacking Konoha? Madara. Causing wars through jinchuuriki? Shodaime. In any case I believe a Bijuu whose jinchuuriki has reached an understanding with it(KB, Yugito and former Three-tails) can't really be considered evil. As for you, why do I get the feeling you just don't want Naruto to ever make peace with Kyuubi due to not wanting him to rely on Bijuu powers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by krazykwasi View Post
    The 3 tails was in the child Mizukage at one point in time. Dont know how long ago that was from the current story line though.
    Yeah, but after he got out he got dumber again. That is if he had any personality before at all, which I believe....


    @ Witcher : Iīd be careful with that theory... It could be that the Jinchuuriki of the Bijuu reached the "cooperation status" through other means... Perhaps an enormous chakra or some kind of Bloodline ability...
    I donīt really think all those who cooperate are good. We still know too little about this, need more info on Beeīs background.

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    sorry everyone... i think i should explain bout my theory of bijuu personality first..
    1. if i'm not mistaken most mangaka draw a characther's expression according to their personality...
    2. if so, the first time i see the
    - 1 tail, it give me this arrogant look which mean its personality is arrogant. the
    - 2 tail, give me this emo look (kind like the look sasuke alweays give XP) which mean its personality is emo.
    - 3 tail, give me this dumb look hence dumb personality.
    - 8 tail, give me this silly look hence silly personality.
    3. for the 9 tail. to tell u the truth, the first time i see it, it give me this perverted look.... i dunno why o_0. but now it give me this evil genius look with evil genius grinn and evil genius eye.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Witcher View Post
    I was very clearly referring to Sasuke, who in that line was also said to have a "darker" chakra than Kyuubi.
    And the Kyuubi was referring to Madara, the guy who you are about to blame for one of his "misdeeds".

    And Sasuke is currently the DARKEST OF THE DARKING DARK who's now serving the same role that Madara was when he controlled the Kyuubi.

    Whether he gets reformed or not, Kishimoto made the Kyuubi say that for a reason, it's not hard to see what that reason is.

    And what is this evil you are referring to?

    Attacking Konoha? Madara.

    Causing wars through jinchuuriki? Shodaime.
    Very good examples. Now the only thing you should do is actually read what i wrote about the oh so awesome relationship the Kyuubi has with Naruto and what he does to him throughout the whole fucking series.

    And i guess nuking Konoha with Chakra blasts was also for the greater good since he was aiming for Pain right?

    In any case I believe a Bijuu whose jinchuuriki has reached an understanding with it(KB, Yugito and former Three-tails) can't really be considered evil.
    We know next to absolutely nothing about every single one of those examples, except that the Raikage saying that Killer Bee was the only one to become a perfect Jinchūriki, implying that Yugito didn't had a full partnership with the 2 tails. The only tailed beasts that we actually see their personalities are Shukkaku, Hachibi and the Kyuubi. And Hachibi is the only one who's not a complete prick.


    As for you, why do I get the feeling you just don't want Naruto to ever make peace with Kyuubi due to not wanting him to rely on Bijuu powers?
    Hey, you're the one who keeps running Naruto's deeds through the mud, i said several times now that he can beat Sasuke as he is right now without the Kyuubi's help. Making peace with the Kyuubi has nothing to do with this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathbringerpt View Post
    Hey, you're the one who keeps running Naruto's deeds through the mud, i said several times now that he can beat Sasuke as he is right now without the Kyuubi's help. Making peace with the Kyuubi has nothing to do with this.
    Witcher always runs naruto's deeds in the mud but he has a point in this aspect. You really think naruto can beat sasuke as he is now?? I honestly dont.. and i think naruto learning how to better Utalize the Kyuubi would give him a better chance of against him. Wouldn't u agree some extra power for naruto would be better for him death? We all know naruto lacks in techs so a decent kyuubi boast + SM + Kages + Rasengans is good. Sasuke and his now controllable and moldable amatersu + susanoo + ultimate susanoo and everything else is alot for him.

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