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    The Witcher is offline Senior Member Always Around
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    Well ivanov. I never figured you for one of those uber-religious science-dismissing types. And for the record humans did not evolve from Neanderthals(Neanderthals were a separate evolutionary line that died out) or even from apes; we evolved from a primate species that was a common ancestor to all three.

    There's a fatal and ridiculously obvious flaw in Madara's Moon Eye plan: the moon shines only at night, so his genjutsu will control people only for half the day. Does he seriously expect non-stop battles all day long followed by him ruling peacefully after dusk?
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    ^nope. i'm not uber-religious science-dismissing types... i'm somewhere in between (actually my religion is somewhat scientific ... if that make any sense)... if u read my post earlier carefully, the u might see it..
    and what is me talking bout 'human' evolution got anything to do with 'dog' evolution i wonder...

    There's a fatal and ridiculously obvious flaw in Madara's Moon Eye plan: the moon shines only at night, so his genjutsu will control people only for half the day. Does he seriously expect non-stop battles all day lone followed by peace after dusk?
    that's prolly why he need pain's moon making ability. make alot of it, then spread it around the world (this is if the narutoworld not flat)... anyway, that is gonna make an intersting discussion. if the moon eye plan did comence, many people will be migrating every hour to escape the night.... or live underground... or stay inside the house every night.... or just do what Guy thought loong ago: just dont look at the moon or any of it reflection (but then again itachi did use only finger to make a genjutsu to naruto).... or make what the people on matrix movie did: cover the world with an eternal cloud

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    I'm guessing that his plan is that once the genjutsu effects the people who look at the moon once, they are already trapped in the illusion permanently.

    And regarding Neanderthals, the term is often used as an umbrella term by laymen, but you are somewhat correct, Neanderthals are a separate subspecies, but as I said before they are still bound by homoerectus:



    Quote Originally Posted by ivanov_2020 View Post
    and what is me talking bout 'human' evolution got anything to do with 'dog' evolution i wonder...
    well all evolution is the same, it's a process, not something that is different for every animal.

    actually, what I should have picked you up on was that you were saying that religions explain that we all come from a primordial soup. What religion states that?
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    Suddenly everyone has a Bachelors in Anthropology -_-.

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    There's a fatal and ridiculously obvious flaw in Madara's Moon Eye plan: the moon shines only at night, so his genjutsu will control people only for half the day.
    Yeah, I thought about it too.
    But it's not true that moon shines only at night. You can see the moon quite often during daytime, at least here in central europe.

    But I think it's a permanent genjutsu, like danzo wrote
    Cause it would be retarded, if you could dispel it just by blindfolding someone or taking him to place with no windows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danzo View Post
    off topic again, but necessary:

    Your missing link idea (which apparently is creationist's favorite flawed argument) is incorrect.

    Let me give you an example:
    now this is just the result of 15,000 years of controlled breeding by humans (basically evolution on a small scale). The variation is already astounding, and you're telling me that a hundred thousand years can't create this variation between homo erectus and homo sapien and that it must be an act of god instead?

    PS - you can move this stuff to general forum if you want.
    remind me of what human have done to the poor cows.

    turning them into nothing but a big fat meat/milk factory

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    Quote Originally Posted by R3dKnight View Post
    remind me of what human have done to the poor cows.

    turning them into nothing but a big fat meat/milk factory
    Animals taste good.

    I have a t-shirt saying that.

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    Ugh... the cliche "let's make peace by bending everyone's will to follow mine."
    Come on Kishi, you couldn't think of anything else? Seriously? That's one of the most overdone evil bad guy plots. It's always world domination... Even Danzo's more legit than this guy.

    Since Kishi likes to copy DB, I'm guessing this is going to end with Naruto becoming the Jubi's host, and becoming a god-like being.

    On the plus side, it seems like Naruto is growing up! And Sakura stopped QQing about everything! Kishi killed Madara's character, but maybe Naruto will get some time again.

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    VIVa la world domination!!!!! ugh naruto is come now to this....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicholas71 View Post
    Hahaha Raikage looked like he got Punk'd.

    If the Rikudou Sennin gave his powers to both the Uchiha and the Senju, why is the Uchiha the only one with the cool tablet? But then again the Senju can control all the bijuus, whereas I think the Uchiha can only control the Kyuubi with MS. And I wonder how Madara got Nagato to read the tablet; maybe he projected his memory or something?
    The Uchiha comes from the OLDER brother, so I guess that's why they have the tablet. Or maybe the senju had one, but it's either lost, or yet to revealed. Anyway, the senju is very powerful, and is described by madara as at least on equal with uchiha. The reason for their power comes from the fact that they inherited the body of the younger brother, and grants them the ability to master all kinds of jutsu, not just any particular jutsu like other clans. They were feared as senju of the thousands techniques or something like that.

    So far I like how Kishi's doing the story, though I bet most of Akatsuki must feel stupid for believing the original "collect money, get monopoly on war, control world" plan, which oddly enough sounds more like a convincing real-life conspiracy theory than this fantasy plan Madara has.
    That's Pein's plan. The story Pein told Naruto, I think, was sincere from his heart. It looks like to me that both Pein and Madara are using each other for their own plan of achieving peace. The reason why Pein is his subordinate is probabably because Madara created Akatsuki and hold the knowledge. If akatsuki succeeded to capture all tailed beasts, I think there would be a fight between them.

 

 
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