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    Henchy432 is offline Senior Member Community Builder
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdfang View Post
    remember that half the members of akatsuki weren't geniuses either, just crazy or unstable.

    So really the theme of the story is, you can't get far unless you have a bloodline, are from a clan, have an inner furry, or are completely messed up in the head.

    Did I cover everything?

    Or have a demon inside of you.

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    inner demon = inner furry

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yazen View Post
    Plus I think that most of the hard workers developed something that was special and put them into the genius category. Naruto is considered a genius because of his hard work (and clone training). Look at Raikage too. Doesn't seem like he's a genius, jinchuuriki or has a kekkai genkai. So why is he so strong? He probably did the hard work thing to the point where he was taijutsu great developed his lightning aura, thus making him kage/genius worthy.
    It's never the hard work alone though. Naruto has natural talent at ninjutsu and is able to master many techniques faster than others. Also he was born with ridiculous chakra capacity plus kyubbi powers, protection and healing. He wouldn't be a genius without his gifts, even with hard work. I'm assuming Raikage was born with naturally high chakra levels, talent at ninjutsu, high testoterone as well.

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    Ok, for one thing. He doesn't have a ridiculous chakra capacity PLUS kyuubi powers. He only has a lot of kyuubi chakra. Second he is not talented at all in ninjutsu. The only jutsu he's progressed in is his clone and harem techs. Third he is not able to master techniques faster than others otherwise he would've gotten Rasengan by now. Anything else you wanna put in like his senjutsu and rasengan variations with senjutsu are only because of all the clone training he's done which has also progressed his mind and strategic skills. Not to mention cut his time down like crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yazen View Post
    Ok, for one thing. He doesn't have a ridiculous chakra capacity PLUS kyuubi powers. He only has a lot of kyuubi chakra.
    He has a ridiculous chakra capacity without kyuubi as well. It's been mentioned he had to have a strong normal chakra to keep kyuubi's in check.

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    ^ By Jiraiya i might add.

    "He is now declaring his words to the WORLD!"

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    yep jiraiya did say that he has an enormous chakra reserve due to his chakra keeping the kyuubi's chakra subdued. Naruto probably has more chakra than anyone else in the entire manga. Kisame is probably next because of his samehada sword. he is also able to master techs faster because of his clone training regime that kakashi figured out for him. he just keeps getting limited by kishimoto.

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    I remember when the series began naruto was a lil petulent brat that couldn't go a day without asking more senior ninja to teach him JUTSUS!! I miss that naruto (the naruto that wanted to learn everything and anything jutsu not the immature brat naruto) cause if he still had his tenacity to learn, with his new training method and better immense chakra control, then he'd be a walking jutsu dictionary by now. Someone needs to give that fool a couple scrolls and let him assimilate the data. Kishi fuked us when jiraiya and tsunade fought orochi and had jiraiya say that cursed line, "Its not a matter of how many jutsu a ninja has... but his heart/determination that makes him great" or w/e. From that day on its been less ninjutsu but more resolve that wins battles -_-

    "He is now declaring his words to the WORLD!"

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    i agree there kwasi. that is sooo true!! he probably would rival sharingan kakashi in the amout of jutsu he could have learned by now. hells yeah naruto learns more quickly from scrolls it seems cuz when he stole that forbidden scroll for mizuki he learnd kage bunshin all by himself and he mastered that one pretty quickly and it was said it was a forbidden technique at that time in the manga. just imagine scrolls plus his new method of training, there is no reason why naruto should be still below par with sasuke or any other ninja in the narrutoverse based on these facts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyuubi clone View Post
    i agree there kwasi. that is sooo true!! he probably would rival sharingan kakashi in the amout of jutsu he could have learned by now. hells yeah naruto learns more quickly from scrolls it seems cuz when he stole that forbidden scroll for mizuki he learnd kage bunshin all by himself and he mastered that one pretty quickly and it was said it was a forbidden technique at that time in the manga. just imagine scrolls plus his new method of training, there is no reason why naruto should be still below par with sasuke or any other ninja in the narrutoverse based on these facts
    I'm still dreaming of the day when Kishi will pull out that Naruto did that training alone by himself, learning tons of jutsu (at least, two or three that he can use to come up with a lot more situations than just KB and rasengan) against an opponent ^^

    Still dreaming...

 

 
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