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    that wasnt a hyuuga...the clan,as a force, polititcal or otherwise are not acknowledged.sometimes i feel kishi created way too many characters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neo Dravidian View Post
    Yall are being way too paranoid. The manga says that the Sharingan is said to have decended from the Byakugan.

    http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/78/13/

    In other words its said to be a legend just like the Rikkudo Sennin. No one actually knows which came first. All that matters is that they both came from the the Rikkudo Sennins Eyes. Its like that Chicken and the eggs argument.
    I was looking for that link to post because some people were going a little crazy saying that the Sharingan comes from the Byakugan, but the way Kakashi puts it is as if its a myth or as if he doesn't completey know himself.

    I for one never read to much into what he said.

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    Best i can figure is. the reason the hyuga have so much pull in the village over even the uchiha is not because the byakugan is better. But rather simply in terms of numbers. As it seems like every member of the clan can use byakugan while maybe 1 third of the uchiha could obtain sharingan. hence superiority in sheer numbers alone.

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    yay asexual reproduction!!!

    as for my theory about hinata's mom, it could be the same as the senju... they are such a freaking huge family that if they are far apart enough marrage isn't an issue... its still an educated guess, but it could be possible... as long as the mom died within 2 years of hanabi's birth (hanabi -> mom died/ eye transfer -> guy fighting shisui -> uchiha massacre)

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    Quote Originally Posted by hellfire86 View Post
    And what exactly does Kakashi know? he who knew nothing about the MS or akatsuki. or most anything else outside a narrow scope. so Kakashi said they say. who ever they are are likely about as informed as he was at the time.
    That's my entire point. Kakashi was the only one to mention that sht. That whole argument came from someone who wasnt very informed, and yet everyone is treating like it was an absolute.
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    Regardless of who mentioned it about the origins of the Uchiha clan and mind you that Kakashi isnīt just some 2 buck ninja, who by the way, just told Madara that the Rinīnegan being a divine power is a bunch of bullshit, it was stated in part 1 that Byakugan not only could predate the sharingan, it was also a superior bloodline ability.

    And that completely changed in part 2, the Byakugan and its clan is completely absent from the backstory of konoha, which is stated to be one of Konohaīs oldest clans (Something we never heard from the Uchihaīs) and now the Sharigan was directly originated from the Rinīnegan.

    It just lame quality writing and poor consistency. Now iīm not gonna bitch and moan like people in this thread "Kishimoto thinks weīre retarded herp derp" but itīs a fact, plain and simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathbringerpt View Post
    Regardless of who mentioned it about the origins of the Uchiha clan and mind you that Kakashi isnīt just some 2 buck ninja, who by the way, just told Madara that the Rinīnegan being a divine power is a bunch of bullshit, it was stated in part 1 that Byakugan not only could predate the sharingan, it was also a superior bloodline ability.

    And that completely changed in part 2, the Byakugan and it+s clan is completely absent from the backstory of konoha, which is stated to be one of Konohaīs oldest clans (Something we never heard from the Uchihaīs) and now the Sharigan was directly originated from the Rinīnegan.

    It just lame quality writing and poor consistency. Now iīm not gonna bitch and moan like people in this thread "Kishimoto thinks weīre retarded herp derp" but itīs a fact, plain and simple.
    not necessarily. Its very ambiguous. as far as we know it could be like this

    Six path sage has two kids
    kid with eyes has kids with byakugan
    Generation with byakugan has kids with both sharingan and byakugan
    those kids seperate
    Sharingan generation meet with Senju cousins.
    They form village
    byakugan user join
    others join
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    http://mangahelpers.com/downloads/read-online/51544/12

    I looked at the original raw and I'm seriously confused. When te pic is enlarged the elder son's eyes have some weird semi-Rinnegan that only covers the irises. What kind of eye technique is that?
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    ^

    Well shit, that is definitely not the sharingan but a (badly drawn) Rin'negan.

    Good, thanks for the link witcher.
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    I doubt that it was simply a badly drawn Rinnegan considering the panel above shows it in perfect detail. I believe it was some kind of semi-Rinnegan; one that didn't have the full powers of the original.
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