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    DivineVTDragon is offline Senior Member Long Time Member
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    Quote Originally Posted by krazykwasi View Post
    Yea but kill him how?? He already tried his spike of doom to the gut but that shit didnt work, so what else does he have up his sleeves.. or chair.
    I would keep in mind that Naruto was able to handle that because he was in Sage Mode (and had Kyuubi Chakra pouring all over him), which dramatically reduces the amount of damage he receives and the amount of Chakra he can actually have. Which is why he overturned the spike with little effort. Now that he's out of Sage Mode...

    Though, I don't see either Nagato, Konan, or Naruto fighting at all right now. Nagato will continue his story about his parents, being orphaned, watching his village suffer over and over again, Yahiko's death, and his transcendence into Pain. After his story is over he'll most likely -

    A) Die from over exertion
    B) Become "Gay Friends" with Naruto. I hope this never happens.

    Since Kishimoto is almost done with Pain's character, being a complete foil to Naruto, he'll be gone in the next couple of chapters.

    I can only hope Nagato has something more serious in his past to merit the path he chose. Compared to Sasuke's flashback of what happened to him this seemed incredibly minor. Pain's logic is growing more and more far fetched to me, he is starting to look more and more like a child, just one with a lot of power. Itachi's story and the logic behind the path he choose seemed far more convincing. I was hoping Pain's story would show a similar level of broadened depth and show case the impossible necessity of the role he chose to take.
    I would agree with you had we not already have seen his prior idealism when he was with Jiraiya. Pain's logic was originally the same as Jiraiya's, to protect the ones he loved and to "grow up" in the village of strife and bring peace among his land. Somewhere along the line, that path was skewed and combined with Yahiko's ideology that people will only understand when the same pain is afflicted back towards them.

    Thus is why there will be a flashback of Yahiko in the next few chapters, to explain how Jiraiya's, Nagato's, and Yahiko's ideas combined into one, creating the "Pain" character that we currently read.

    So far Pain's views seem to come from a place of deep personal trauma rather than a true concern for the betterment of the world as he claims.
    I believe that it's a mixture of both. Rather than having a singular hatred for all leaf ninja after the death of his parents, he accepted and trained under someone from that country. I will agree that it is childish thinking to want to destroy the world in an attempt to save it, but what he may be saying is true. Pain's ideas stem from "What-If" factors, where he trusts that the very people that he scorns to play into his version of justice. If people are as I think they are, they will push the button and destroy themselves over.

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    Oh,fuck Nagato and his parents -.-"
    His parents should have shouted "WE ARE CIVILIANS", cuz they knew that they wouldn´t have a fukin chance against those Ninjas.If the Ninjas would have been really bad they would have been killed anyway....

    And then Nagato goes on about his Pain.... __-----___

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    the pace is slowing down a bit, but that's a given, seeing as the battle's over. i've been wanting to know about why nagato went bad for a while...though the whole part about konoha ninjas killing his parents was a little boring, it was probably necessary.

    no, im interested as to what changed him after jiraiya left. my guess would be that yahiko died...but who knows.

    as it is, the only way i can see peace in this story is if naruto abolishes the ninja system. so long as there're ninjas, there can't be peace.

    nagato looks pretty lame using that lousy spike shooting machine. it seems like it's all he can do now, given that he's disabled. i don't think naruto will kill him, in the end...in all likelihood naruto will probably reform him or at least shift his way of thinking, just like he did with most of his past enemies. then nagato'll die. but of course naruto won't have killed him directly or for revenge. and that's what counts, i think.

    i'm also interested to know how he got so disabled. next week, i guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicholas71 View Post
    i've been wanting to know about why nagato went bad for a while...
    madara mindfuck him to many time.
    the only way i can see peace is that there's no longer bijuu (what the first done, to distribute them equally, just make thing worst) mybe naruto sealed them all in him and then die. offcourse there's always the basilisk way (make sure everybody dead then poke your eyes out)...
    BTW it just hit me: Xavier + wierd hair = nagato

    Quote Originally Posted by DVTD View Post
    A) Die from over exertion
    B) Become "Gay Friends" with Naruto. I hope this never happens.
    C) Both. naruto fu** him to death..

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    I love how Konan was like just hurry up Nagato and finish him, bitch did you see that Naruto is holding all the cards right now. He can kick both of your asses right now, you better be quiet and play nice before he beat you up for getting loud. I mean I can't say I didn't see a chapter like this coming Naruto rarely ever finishes an opponent without trying to change there evil ways. Hmmm his parents were killed boy does that suck, good job leaf ninjas not checking first before killing them. LOL. As I have learned from working with former military people shit happens in war, unfortunately innocents get killed because they don't evacuate when told to.
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    Once again it is implied that Naruto is now a/the most powerful ninja in the area.

    First everyone is told to back off.
    Then he defeats the 5 Peins fairly easily
    Third he defeats Pein #6 with a healthy dose of kage Bunshins and Rasengan
    Now nagato even warns Konan to not try anything cause Naruto can rip them both a new hole.

    So he is by implication (and plot devices) stronger than all Akatsuki (cept Madara) and all of Konoha!

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    Whats the problem with that, he wants to be hokage and hokage are normally the most powerful ninja within the village so why not let him be at that level now.

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    I didn't really like this chapter, in fact, I haven't liked the last few chapters. Irrational and inconsistent motives, making the village seem so useless, retarded expositions, etc. In my opinion they've been some some of the lowest points of the entire manga.

    I prefered the fake spoiler to this chapter. It was a good development that Nagato was interested in hearing what Naruto knew about Madara, and we could get some interesting insight into the relationship between Nagato and Madara, but no.. Kishimoto went for the predictable Sasuke/Haku-type painful childhood story route again. Boring. And what's with that stupid chair that fires out a rod out of the obvious hole in the front of it.. ugh.. what a lame move.

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    Quote Originally Posted by black flash View Post
    Whats the problem with that, he wants to be hokage and hokage are normally the most powerful ninja within the village so why not let him be at that level now.
    No problem with it, as you said, the Hokage is supposed to be at this level in any case. Yet no clear indication is given to the reader as to why this is so. All the other Ninjas just back off. 'Leave this to naruto ya'll' they seem to say.

    So yes, it might be true, but the manner of coming to that conclusion escapes me somehow. Suddenly he is just the most powerful but he did'nt really do anything yet did he (without Kyubi power)

    Some standout power moments like that 3 wall thing Orochi used to do or Sagay's black flame that burns anything. naruto is yet to, with his own power, do a attck so powerful that it only leaves behind a crater!

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    This chapter was meh. I didn't like how Naruto just stood there and took Nagato's accusations in the face with "..." instead of pointing out the bullshit hypocrisy that lay in every word. Taking revenge and understanding pain doesn't make Naruto a God? Then why does it make him one? Naruto's just using the excuse of creating peace to have his revenge? Isn't it the same with Pain?

    Well, the next chapter has potential to be a great exercise in storytelling, with Nagato revealing how he became Pain. This will really stretch Kishimoto's writing skill to the limit. Let's hope it doesn't disappoint...

    And now that I think about it, much of the dialogue in this chapter was very different from the confirmed spoiler.
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