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    near mear is offline Member Frequent Poster
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    "saying you're going to rip me to shreds isn't going yo make me come closer.." <--how cool is that..
    ..(it says i'm not scared of you at all, be a little bit smarter, dumb fox..." haha...ok i add the "dumb" part..4th will never say that..

    i hope to see a more emotional side of naruto when he saw his father..well he was alone for 16 years dammit...he might bearhug him a little...only then give him the punch... kishi should spend more time with this chapter..

    but seeing how simple this chapter got,we might see more of 4th in future chapters..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Urameshi-sama View Post
    ^Yeah, I was disappointed that Minato hadn't figured out Tobi's identity past "he was a guy from Akatsuki with a mask." Him knowing of Madara specifically would have made the kyuubi sealing much more rationalizable, and also explain the parallels drawn between him and Itachi in shippuuden.
    Considering that a controlled creature by a Uchiha gets the Sharingan pattern in his eyes, one would think that Minato would at least reached the conclusion that it was an Uchiha....and since he knew it was someone with "unfathomable power", he could have least have theorized the Madara possibility. Kishimoto must be holding that revelation to Sasuke or something.

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    ^ unless sasuke has already and is planning some kinda back stab?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathbringerpt View Post
    Considering that a controlled creature by a Uchiha gets the Sharingan pattern in his eyes
    We don't know if Kyūbi works that way. Manda was controlled with genjutsu casted with normal Sharingan. In order to control Kyōbi, the user needs to possess the EMS. We do not know if this "new technique" works as some sort of contract, or if it simply is a superior genjutsu (that happens to work only with the 9-tailed fox).

    Quote Originally Posted by krazykwasi View Post
    ^ unless sasuke has already and is planning some kinda back stab?
    I think he meant Sasuke will be the one to reveal Madara is the one who sent Kyōbi back then. Obviously, he'd have to explain who Madara is as well.


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    Urameshi-sama you deserve a dollar for that sig

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    wow!!!! happy to see father and son meet at last... where is sasuke?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueDemon View Post
    ^Ehm, supposed that the image of him was only a genjutsu/something build in the seal - do you think he had time to think about it? I mean,the man was on the verge of losing his village, and he wanted to seal the Kyuubi in his kid in order to combat that evil in the future....
    I guess that isn´t a very good excuse,but anyway....
    Dude, Jiraiya, a person speculating on the 4th's thought process based on his actions before his death came to the conclusion that Madara was alive. You're telling me 4th in person did not realize this?

    Especially when the Uchiha clan was still in existence during his time?

    Quote Originally Posted by Death
    Considering that a controlled creature by a Uchiha gets the Sharingan pattern in his eyes, one would think that Minato would at least reached the conclusion that it was an Uchiha....and since he knew it was someone with "unfathomable power", he could have least have theorized the Madara possibility. Kishimoto must be holding that revelation to Sasuke or something.
    We've only seen than happen to possessed summons. All the flashbacks of the Madara/Shodaime fight don't show kyuubi with sharingan-eyes either, so I don't buy that theory. Then Madara's livelihood wouldn't have been such a big reveal...and would be somewhat obvious really.
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    While we're all looking for ways to burn time till the next spoilers arrive, how about debating the matter of why Naruto's parentage remained secret? Minato's explanation made zero sense to me; why would it cause trouble for Naruto if people knew he was the Yondaime's son? At the least he'd be treated better than he was, considering the villagers only thought of him as a demon.
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    I think he meant Sasuke will be the one to reveal Madara is the one who sent Kyōbi back then. Obviously, he'd have to explain who Madara is as well.
    Yeah, this is what i´m thinking, he´ll hold the Madara reveal for another Uchiha. Plus Sasuke may very well cut ties with Akatsuki since Madara ordered Pain to destroy Konoha.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dante Obscuri View Post
    We don't know if Kyūbi works that way. Manda was controlled with genjutsu casted with normal Sharingan. In order to control Kyōbi, the user needs to possess the EMS. We do not know if this "new technique" works as some sort of contract, or if it simply is a superior genjutsu (that happens to work only with the 9-tailed fox).
    We've only seen than happen to possessed summons. All the flashbacks of the Madara/Shodaime fight don't show kyuubi with sharingan-eyes either, so I don't buy that theory. Then Madara's livelihood wouldn't have been such a big reveal...and would be somewhat obvious really.
    Actually, The Nine Tailed Fox is shown with the Sharingan pattern in his eyes in a color spread of the chapter when Madara started telling Sasuke about Konoha´s history.

    http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/398/01-02/

    I wasn´t theorizing it, i was talking using this image as basis, it pretty much says that when an Uchiha uses his sharingan to control an animal, be it summon or not, the pattern appears.

    Minato's explanation made zero sense to me; why would it cause trouble for Naruto if people knew he was the Yondaime's son?
    Hum....Minato was hero from the Great ninja War, he may have gained grudges with several ninja villages from the different countries that participated in the War. Plus he´s renowned as the greatest Hokage of Konoha, maybe he was trying to protect Naruto from assassination/kidnapping attempts and stuff like that. Better to be a pariah than a constant political target.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Witcher View Post
    While we're all looking for ways to burn time till the next spoilers arrive, how about debating the matter of why Naruto's parentage remained secret? Minato's explanation made zero sense to me; why would it cause trouble for Naruto if people knew he was the Yondaime's son? At the least he'd be treated better than he was, considering the villagers only thought of him as a demon.
    Well.... the ninja world already knew that the 4th seal the Kyuubi, his already legendary status was increased because of it, but i think, emphasis on think, the rest of the Ninja world's top brass also knew he sealed it in his child... so that would make logical sense to keep his parentage a secret. If eveyone knew that naruto was the 4th's kid then they'd know he had the kyuubi within him so he'd be a target. The village treated naruto like shit which was bad/good for him at the same time. Bad cause he had a rough childhood but GOOD because if they treated him special then people might put 2 and 2 together. This explanation would ONLY make sense if other ninja villages knew of Minato sealing it in his son though but from what we know to be true the 4th wanted the konoha pple to see naruto in a good light but they saw him as a curse so idk.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deathbringerpt View Post
    Actually, The Nine Tailed Fox is shown with the Sharingan pattern in his eyes in a color spread of the chapter when Madara started telling Sasuke about Konoha´s history.
    http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/398/01-02/
    I wasn´t theorizing it, i was talking using this image as basis, it pretty much says that when an Uchiha uses his sharingan to control an animal, be it summon or not, the pattern appears.
    Although what u say is true, i felt the same way but now im not sure, theres a possiblity that that spread was just used as symbolism. Basically sayin that the sharingan keep the kyuubi in bondage, hense the chains, unless they literally used chains as well like a leash to control the ninetails lol.

    If we look at http://onemanga.com/Naruto/399/10-11/ we dont see the pattern.... likewise with the picture of the Kyuubi rampaging the village, cant find it but yall know what im talkin bout. If the fox had the sharingan pattern then it would've been obvious and EVERYONE there would've seen it but it wasn't thats y it's appearance was a mystery.
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