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    danzo is offline Senior Member Well Known
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    When it comes to Nagato's sophistication, I'm totally with Samonoske. That writing is so shallow. A villain with an understandable purpose that he believes is true may be a departure from the totally carbon copy bad guy who is just evil for the sake of it that you see on the powerpuff girls or something, but the execution is still too contrived and inconsistent to be worthy of praise. Most dissatisfying of all is that it doesn't fit with his latest actions, which ironically IS total carbon copy. The james bond villain writing is renown for being farcically bad: that the bad guy who does something inconsistent/irrational, just so that we, the viewer, can find out more about the story. This technique is always a sign of weak writing.
    Bond is strapped to the table about to get cut in half, and the villain says "well, I suppose there's no harm in telling you my secret plan since you're going to die anyway".

    Nagato not only did he do this against Jiraiya: http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/374/11/ but again before he could have taken Naruto away with him. That's not sophisticated character writing, that's trying to expand the plot at the expense of making your characters into morons.
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    ivanov_2020 is offline Senior Member Always Around
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    soo... i just find out that binktopia is back scanlating naruto.... (i usually take naruto from them..so yay)
    just passing the news......

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    MadDogMike is offline Senior Member Always Around
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samonoske View Post
    I mean the chapter was great and all... But are you guys actually so retarded that you're surprised the character who looked the exact same as Naruto, who gave his life to seal the demon in naruto, who is constantly compared to Naruto and who was also Jiraiya's pupil was Naruto's dad. Not to mention the ridiculous amount of times the said omg I see his soul in your eyes naruto lol I mean I loved this chapter, fun stuff, but damn people are blind.
    You must have missed the chapter where Jiraiya said that the 4th was Naruto's dad, before he left for the Rain country.

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    seksekseks is offline Member Frequent Poster
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    I should know this by now, but does Naruto still have a clone back at the mountain?

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    Angrylemming is offline Member Frequent Poster
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    Quote Originally Posted by seksekseks View Post
    I should know this by now, but does Naruto still have a clone back at the mountain?
    Yeah I'm pretty sure he does, he only had to summon one so far

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    DamnIt is offline Senior Member Respected Member
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    Quote Originally Posted by danzo View Post
    When it comes to Nagato's sophistication, I'm totally with Samonoske. That writing is so shallow. A villain with an understandable purpose that he believes is true may be a departure from the totally carbon copy bad guy who is just evil for the sake of it that you see on the powerpuff girls or something, but the execution is still too contrived and inconsistent to be worthy of praise. Most dissatisfying of all is that it doesn't fit with his latest actions, which ironically IS total carbon copy. The james bond villain writing is renown for being farcically bad: that the bad guy who does something inconsistent/irrational, just so that we, the viewer, can find out more about the story. This technique is always a sign of weak writing.
    Bond is strapped to the table about to get cut in half, and the villain says "well, I suppose there's no harm in telling you my secret plan since you're going to die anyway".

    Nagato not only did he do this against Jiraiya: http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/374/11/ but again before he could have taken Naruto away with him. That's not sophisticated character writing, that's trying to expand the plot at the expense of making your characters into morons.
    i guess your right.. but its not like they can vanish in the night, go to his home and sneaky take out a scroll or diary where he wrote his plans in and escaping with it like some kind of ninja O.o


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    jejunice is offline Junior Member Newbie
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    thanks for sharing really many thanks...

 

 
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