03-15-2009, 11:27 AM
Hell yea naruto was speechless. He's been mindfucked by sasuke, mindfuked by itachi, now he's being mindfuked but the 4th Hokage, who's supposed to be dead, and that bastard just told him that he's his son??? Thats a mouthfull.
Naruto: "Damn...I really need to stay off them Shinobi Shrooms!"
"He is now declaring his words to the WORLD!"
03-15-2009, 12:41 PM
Wasn't I the first one to raise that james bond villain analogy? Pretty sure I was. And that's precisely my point, I think kishi should be writing a bit better than that.
Originally Posted by DamnIt
Last edited by danzo; 03-15-2009 at 02:30 PM.
03-15-2009, 03:14 PM
its not bad writing. everybody does things for a reason, these evil-bastards try to justify what they do by trying to convince the rival/good guy of his plans. this is actualy done very well by pain, naruto is in confusement and is cant find another way to deal with the problem, pains way is the only way? is he doing the right thing? is peace really unatainable? i know its corny but its just the kind of vilain pain is.
Last edited by DamnIt; 03-15-2009 at 03:42 PM.
Whats up with the oversized signatures?
i love you black flash Muah !!!
03-15-2009, 04:19 PM
Reminds me of something someone said (forgot who or where, but it's very valid) - the really good bad guys never go around believing they are evil. All of them either think of themselves or of some better cause that their warped point of view sees.
Originally Posted by DamnIt
03-15-2009, 09:45 PM
The first thing I thought when I read this is... Hitler.
Originally Posted by Angrylemming
03-15-2009, 09:56 PM
You know, it has to be said: As someone who hasn't seen the movie, but has read the books, and doesn't fawn over them like so many others do, I've noticed Pain has drawn an even-greater-than parallel with a certain character from said story...which character am I talking about?
I'd easily give Pain the thumbs-up as a better character, though. He's actually experienced a serious loss. He's possibly given up his own body in order to have the power he wanted. If you want to go there, he's even done a far better job of being nigh-invisible without having to have others come to his side first.
03-16-2009, 03:41 AM
you don't like them...
and here i thought i would never find anybody who dislikes them...
03-16-2009, 05:26 AM
Haven't watched the Watchmen yet so don't know what you mean...
What I'm worried about most in this chapter is not the fact that Naruto almost went Ninetails but that once again, he's reduced to a state where he doesn't really have anything to fall back on but the Kyuubi in case he has to fight an uber opponent and isn't being helped along by the plot.
I mean, think about it. Thanks to Kishimoto's latest nerf, Sage Mode has become unusable unless in special circumstances, just like Rasenshuriken before it. Naruto can't use it unless he knew he was in for a big fight and prepared for it beforehand by putting clones at Myoubokuzan and lugging along a summoning scroll into battle.
What I'm getting at is what is he going to do if he faces his next powerful opponent out of the blue? Like say, Sasuke(which is likely if he manages to beat Pain)? Without prep time (which he only had here because he knew Pain was in Konoha) he's back to Kagebunshin, Rasengan and Kyuubi...
I'M NO HERO, BELIEVE IT!
03-16-2009, 05:48 AM
Ummm not to be a hater...
I mean the chapter was great and all... But are you guys actually so retarded that you're surprised the character who looked the exact same as Naruto, who gave his life to seal the demon in naruto, who is constantly compared to Naruto and who was also Jiraiya's pupil was Naruto's dad. Not to mention the ridiculous amount of times the said omg I see his soul in your eyes naruto lol I mean I loved this chapter, fun stuff, but damn people are blind.
03-16-2009, 05:56 AM
^ I think what's different about PEIN from all of the opponents from the manga is that his not just one opponent, 6 paths right, so for being big of a fight w/c only 1 w/c is Naruto himself fighting with.
Originally Posted by The Witcher
My point is that PEIN is too much too handle even for Naruto because his opponent is like a TEAM, lets say 1 vs 6, its no even right, so there fight is different.
And Let's say Naruto will fight Sasuke out of the blue, its just a 1v1 match, so with that happening, Naruto don't need like tons of clones on Myobozukan Mt. maybe just one clone or maybe just himself can take care Sasuke, Maybe in the near future, so its depending on the Match were NAruto will be fighting for, if its 1v1 Naruto will win I pressume. But having 4-6 Opponents with GOD like capability. He's definitely needs a work plan.
"i am what i am, nobody can stop me"