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    R3dKnight is offline Senior Member Community Builder
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    Living within it, Aware of the past, Predicting the future.
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    I find it hard to believe people like Hidan, Kakuzu, Sasori, Orochimaru, etc. would have joined an organization whose ultimate goal is peace. The first time Pain explained his plan, he concluded that Akatsuki would rule the world (Chapter 329). Madara was there as Tobi when he explained it. And later it was revealed that Pain, the "leader", was taking orders from Madara (as far as we know anyway). And Madara explained that he would eventually get his power back. Whether or not that's the ultimate goal of Akatsuki, just the personal goal of Madara, or part of the ultimate world domination goal isn't clear. But it is clear that Madara and Pain are very much aware of what each other claims to be planning.

    So far, Madara has been shown to be in control of Akatsuki, including Pain. Pain has been portrayed (or has portrayed himself as the case may be) as someone who very much believes in the goal of world peace. However, this appears to be inconsistant with taking orders from a man as apparently vengeful as Madara. This leads me to believe the true goal of Akatsuki is either world domination or just hasn't been fully revealed yet.

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    ^Also kudos to the scanlators for their perfectly accurate translation. The words could have come out distorted otherwise and some of the meaning would have been lost.

    Naruto doesn't have Sage Mode now so he probably doesn't have the strength to rip the pole out of the ground/rip his hands free.
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    On another note, while I don't believe Naruto will come out with some crazy plan for peace among ninja, I do believe he's already well on his way to fulfilling his promise to Jiraiya of helping people understand each other. This is, after all, Naruto's "power". He has consistantly been shown to help bring people to the light and has even become friends with former enemies (something that happens a lot in comics/manga but is done better than most here), most recently Sai and perhaps even Itachi. The extent of his influence has gone as far as producing an extraordinarily firm alliance between the Sand and Leaf villages, who had very recently been on the brink of war. And we know that Cloud village is wading into the fray against Akatsuki. It now looks as if Cloud will become either great allies or great enemies very soon (I'm leaning heavily towards the former). And I think it's clear that farther down the line, Cloud will in fact be staunch allies what with their having a beloved Jinchuuriki of their own.

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    Who was it that called the cripple card on Nagato, bitches?!

    Ha yeah.

    The peach speech gave him more depth IMO (Not that he had much in the first place), he seems to be realistic enough to know that no matter how much he accomplishes with Akatsuki and this Kyuubi powered machine, humanity will follow itīs course and eventually fall back into a chain of violence, he just want to be the one responsible for the "good part" of this vicious cicle since he has an efficient way to provoke it. Itīs better than just "WE CONQUER THE WORLD DURR".

    And this funny the moment someones starts anything resembling a moral discussion with Naruto, he imediately shuts up. Not very good at arguments, at least heīs not shouting generic shonen bullshit.
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    ^90% of the people on here said he would be crippled.

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    Must have missed all of them then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Witcher View Post
    Naruto doesn't have Sage Mode now so he probably doesn't have the strength to rip the pole out of the ground/rip his hands free.
    Well well well... doesn't somebody have their foot in their mouth there?? Weren't YOU the one that first realized how he broken the frog statue's arm off?? Which required immense strength?? So y not do it again Witch?? He may not be able to "rip" the pole off but he can most certainly slide his hands up it.. All he needs is Pein to get distracted enough for him to jump to his knees then *swoosh* up he goes. (And for those of you who think that's physically impossible i dare u to lie on your stomach with your hands like naruto's and try to do what i said.. it's remarkably easy :P)

    Quote Originally Posted by Deathbringerpt View Post
    Who was it that called the cripple card on Nagato, bitches?!
    Uhh me??? :P lmao

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    Quote Originally Posted by krazykwasi View Post
    Well well well... doesn't somebody have their foot in their mouth there?? Weren't YOU the one that first realized how he broken the frog statue's arm off?? Which required immense strength?? So y not do it again Witch??
    Who knows? Kishi's mighty inconsistent about these things. We may never see (regular)Naruto show super strength again. Maybe I'm just hoping to be proved wrong.

    BTW how many hours do you spend on this forum everyday, kwasi?
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    Not long.. but i have weekly physics reports due at noon tdy so i pretty much pull all nighters on Thursdays. lol. so it seems like i never leave.. but i guess to more accuratley answer your question.. i have no clue.. i work in front of a computer so you can only imagine.

    Kishi isn't really AS predictable. Anything could happen. I wonder how long it'll be b4 shika and comp find fricken nagato...?

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