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    Quote Originally Posted by Urameshi-sama View Post
    I haven't found any data/evidence in the manga to accurately age Kakashi, so it's hard to tell which age is more accurate. Kakashi was ~14 when Minato died though.

    @R3d- Itachi's aging has been confirmed though. It might seem unlikely, but it fits the story considering he was a genius ninja too.
    Data Book 3 says he's 30.

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    ^So Minato would have been ~46 now, making Tsunade ~9 if she had him. Unless you want to consider cases like this, we're probably in the clear if we say it's bull. Though, Tsunade could have been a genius ninja in that aspect...She's still so gifted at this age.
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    I don't think Naruto is actually Senju. Kishimoto built up Naruto's character as dead-last in class, a prankster by nature, slow to pick up ideas, etc. He's also modeled Naruto after himself; he's had a very though time and he worked hard so that his dreams can come true. To suddenly reveal that he is a Senju makes all Naruto's hardwork thus far fail short of his potential.

    But then again, Naruto is the #1 unpredictable ninja...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Urameshi-sama View Post
    ^So Minato would have been ~46 now, making Tsunade ~9 if she had him. Unless you want to consider cases like this, we're probably in the clear if we say it's bull. Though, Tsunade could have been a genius ninja in that aspect...She's still so gifted at this age.
    Again stupid(xcuse me if i keep on sayin it), Minato died around 18-20 years of age. And he was Kakashi's instructor before that. remember he became an HOkage at 18 years old and he didnt stay as one for too long.

    Before you try to discredit some dude's theory and be funny, you should check the facts first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irecinius View Post
    What about Ino?? Naruto's half sister?

    He wasn't the yellow flash for no reason, impregnated every pretty girl in the village before killing himself.

    I have O+ my mom has A- Blood father B-, nice flawed theory. just forgot to consider GENETICS?! (not adopted ...)
    Dude, you yourself don't know anything about Genetics. In a Type A blood, the phenotype is "A," but the genotype is actually can either be "AO" or "AA". In type B blood, the phenotype is "B" but the genotype is "BO" or "BB", and same thing for AB blood as ABO. Consider the 0 as zero or null. You can also consider "0" as a recessive gene, and "A" and "B" as dominant genes. Type "AA" and "BB" are homozygous for the blood trait. Type "AO" and type "BO" are heterozygous for the blood type. If type A-blood type father and a B-blood type mother mate, they can produce a type "O" child, if both parents are heterozygous. Use a Punnet Square and you'll see what I mean.

    Going back to Naruto, I can't wait for Black Flash to post confirmed spoilers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxDoLLarBiLLxx View Post
    Before you try to discredit some dude's theory and be funny, you should check the facts first.
    Admittedly I'm not taking the theory seriously, but I didn't discredit the ages until black flash cited the 3rd databook. And that was after I checked the manga references, leafninja, narutopedia, and wikipedia in search for age references on Minato. Considering you haven't mentioned any citation to support your claim that Minato died at 18 (and the unlikeliness of it considering his extensive list of accomplishments), I think you pulled it out of your ass. So I turn that line back to you and ask you to check your facts and show that your claim of his age has any credibility. But you were right to question my acceptance of flash's citation, because now I've checked the databook and found that his age was unknown in the databook too.


    Oh, by the way, you never responded to me till above post, so "again" doesn't refer to anything...
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    Quote Originally Posted by irecinius View Post
    I have O+ my mom has A- Blood father B-, nice flawed theory. just forgot to consider GENETICS?! (not adopted ...)
    I feel someone should explain to you. the (-) in a blood type is recessive. Meaning anyone who as a X- blood type must have two of the genes for (-). this means that if two people have a child and are both (-) types, there child also will be.

    Basically, either you are incorrect about your parents (or your own) blood type, or someone has some explaining to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Urameshi-sama View Post
    Admittedly I'm not taking the theory seriously, but I didn't discredit the ages until black flash cited the 3rd databook. And that was after I checked the manga references, leafninja, narutopedia, and wikipedia in search for age references on Minato. Considering you haven't mentioned any citation to support your claim that Minato died at 18 (and the unlikeliness of it considering his extensive list of accomplishments), I think you pulled it out of your ass. So I turn that line back to you and ask you to check your facts and show that your claim of his age has any credibility. But you were right to question my acceptance of flash's citation, because now I've checked the databook and found that his age was unknown in the databook too.


    Oh, by the way, you never responded to me till above post, so "again" doesn't refer to anything...
    haha, your reasonning was much more dumb. You come out of nowhere and claim Minato would have been 42 years old. Meaning he'd be HOkage at 27 years old... And they have been saying throughout the manga that He was the youngest hokage ever.

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    obiously not, sarutobi was hokage as a kid. check chapter 123
    Stop creating facts please...
    At least, if you're telling something like it was the truth, try backing it up with some pics. Now that's just.. crap

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    @Dollar-And nevermind the fact that we don't know when hokageship was actually granted for sandaime or yondaime? He might have been called the youngest hokage, but we don't know what that means considering we don't know how old any of the other hokages aside from Tsunade were when appointed. (@Jahnin- It's hard to interpret that too considering both sandaime and yondaime were shown selected as successors for hokageship before they became hokages; we never saw when this transition actually occurred for either of them.)

    I didn't say Minato would be 42...ever, that was flash. I said Minato would be 46 if he were alive today under the assumption that the data book said he was 30 when he died (which was a bad assumption). That assertion makes perfect sense in that context considering Kakashi turned 14 in Kakashi gaiden, and Minato became hokage and died shortly after the events of Kakashi gaiden. Kakashi is ~30 today, so Minato would have been 46. Where's the flaw in that logic?

    Still, you haven't answered why you think Yondy was 18 when he died.

    I've looked in a handful of sources, many of them encyclopedic, to find Minato's age and have turned up emptyhanded. So, why do you think that you have some common knowledge that we're missing when you can't find a citation to support you?

    The reason I'm grilling the age now is because that info could be the best disproof for the theory. However, the converse isn't true. Even if the ages match up, the most that would do is make the theory technically plausible. The theory still doesn't hold up in other features of it's logic, like the ones I mentioned in my 1st post (which you haven't contested btw).

    So what I can't understand is why you, who is generally a heavy skeptic, support this theory that relies on poor assumptions. This isn't like the Yondy=Naruto's dad theory, which had lots of evidence supporting it from the beginning of the manga.

    A few other points of inconsistency in the theory that if Tsunade dissociated from Minato when he was a child, why would she know him and Kushina well enough to have a nostalgic/reflective convo about them with Jiraiya? Also, if Minato was Dan's child, why would Shizune stay with Tsunade when she left the village rather than raise the kid herself?
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