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    DamnIt is offline Senior Member Respected Member
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    he couldnt train with clones cause then the frog would hit all the narutos if it whent wrong ..


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    I think this chapter is cool.
    We have an explanation about Jirayias appearance (I thought at first that´s how the Sage Mode is) and even if Naruto is gonna fuck the jutsu up at first,I hope he´ll master it when it gets serious,that is against Pein.
    The Kyuubi chakra could come in handy to balance the Nature Energy...

    And the 8Tails has to be cool.He is one step (Tail xD) away from the Kyuuby.We´ll probably see now what Sasuke really can do with his ability to control Bijuus or whatever he can do.But that´s be just messed up,I wanna see Sasuke get a lil bit in trouble before he defeats the 8T.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DamnIt View Post
    he couldnt train with clones cause then the frog would hit all the narutos if it whent wrong ..
    All Pa has to do is hit the real Naruto. If Naruto doesn't use the clone learning ability, then why introduce it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ranteil View Post
    Give Naruto some credit... he'll gain a half second each time. That being said, I'm interested if he would pull out one or two clones to do the training with him, I mean sure more work for grandpa toad, but it would also speed up the training (in theory) as well. Expecially if he did it in bursts of every couple hours.
    I've been thinking about that and I'm not sure it would work out too well with the nature chakra assimilation. If you've got more clones, you're absorbing 'x' times more nature chakra from your surroundings, depending on the number of clones. Therefore, his transformation into a frog, aka failure, would be 'x' times as fast.

    He could probably do the clone method once he's a bit more of an adept at controlling the flow. I'm still banking on seeing clones with more endurance who can probably withstand more than a few hits. It would compliment naruto's distraction (*sigh*) tactics rather nicely.
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    I found it very interesting that the toad like appearance Jiraiya took on when he went into Hermit mode was actually a negative side effect. I had originally assumed that the appearance was largely what garnered him his advanced level of power but this chapter seemed to state the opposite. According to what has been revealed, in this chapter, a fully mastered Hermit mode would not alter the users physical appearance at all. To me that raises some interesting questions about what Hermit arts really are, it has been explained that they allow the user to channel energy from nature but surely there must be more to it than just increasing physical strength and stamina. When Jiraiya used Hermit mode he seemed to be physically much faster and more powerful but the only new techniques he seemed to be capable of in that form came from Ma and Pa. Does that mean that Hermit arts are just a power boost or is there more to it than we have seen? I certainly hope it is the later as a simple power upgrade would be entirely uninspired.

    As for the 8-tails I find him extremely disappointing, I was hoping for a character who would have the appeal to carry through for awhile. As it stands he has just barely been introduced and already I am hoping for his death. It is good to see that he isn't a push over but I really can't imagine him being a significant character within the series. He should serve as an interesting opponent for Sasuke but nothing beyond that. Although I do hope the 8-tails bijuu does play a significant role in the future, just not the current Jinchuuriki. I think it would be cool to see Orochimaru/Kabuto somehow become the Jinchuuriki of the 8-tails, that could lead to some interesting events and upset the balance of power a little. It would be a shame for Sasuke to simply defeat the 8-tails and have him sealed quickly and easily, that would just be too straight forward.

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    I think the 8-tails Jinchuuriki will serve to draw a parallel between Itachi and Sasuke. A few chapters ago we saw Itachi defeat a hydra-lookalike monster; so, assuming the 8-tails has some resemblance to the Eight-Forked Serpent and Sasuke uses a technique similar to the one Itachi used on Orochimaru, then you could sort of say he's catching up.

    That'd be sort of interesting since, currently, Naruto is training to catch up (and possibly surpass) Jiraiya.


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    Naruto isn't using the clones for training purely because of Plot Induced Stupidity(TM). It's the same reason why he hasn't trained to perfect the Rasenshuriken yet even though it's been a few months since the Kakuzu battle.
    No matter what training regimens he has at his disposal, Naruto can't use it to get stronger unless the mangaka wants him to. I'm guessing Kishi isn't letting him use it because he'll surpass Sasuke if he has 20 years worth of training.
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    Yippee, yet another fight get's thrown at Sasuke. Because we haven't seen enough of that lately
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    ..well we knew the fight was coming

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    This is it guys! Nature chakra turns out to be the Force. Pain pulls out a double edged lightsaber in the next chapter and Madara pulls off his mask in front of Kakashi and tells him, "Kakashi, *wheeze* I am your friend Obito. Look deep within your heart. You know it to be true." "Noooooooooooooooooo!"

    OK, that won't happen, but at the rate things are going if it really did happen I'd become a little more interested in Naruto. Maybe it's the fact that Naruto is a giant retard that's putting me off. 2 years worth of training with Jiraiya and all he learnt was "Oodama rasengan! Charge!". A couple weeks with Kakashi and maybe a couple weeks with the Toad sage and he'll probably learn more than he did in his entire 2 years with Jiraiya. Come on! Can we rename the manga to Sasuke already?!

 

 
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