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    Conejo is offline Senior Member Regular
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    Default Assuming that Madaras story is true...(recent spoilers included)

    Why did Itachi have to kill his girlfriend?






    On the one hand we got some girl who Itachi was close to and for whatever reason had to be killed? I doubt that some girl Itachi met and loved would join up with the rest of the Uchiha clan (which has no relation to her besides Itachi) in order to take over the village.

    So there is no logical reason for her to be killed. A friend of mine said something about Itachi not wanting witnesses. Eh. He had to maintain the look of a criminal anyway so I think it doesn't matter but even if he wanted to avoid witnesses he could've used genjutsu and saved her life. I'm sure Itachi wouldn't kill someone who didn't need to die.

    The only possible explanation as to why Itachi would kill his girlfriend..and this is the real point of the post...

    Inter-clan breeding. For the linguistically challenged I'm saying that Itachi was dating someone in the family. And not just Itachi but for a strong clan it would make sense that they would do it. To stay strong you need the Uchiha blood to stay strong and it makes sense that the sharingan would be most likely to appear if both of your parents have it.

    Less Sharingan and less Uchiha blood would make the clan weaker right?

    If I'm right then Itachi killed his girlfriend because she was of Uchiha blood.

    Or I might be missing something. Please prove me wrong because I don't want to think of Itachi every time I watch Jerry Springer.

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    ^so you think?

    i think your post is unnecessary and shallow
    it's a logical consequence since all we know is that he killed the uchiha.. thus she was an uchiha - don't need a genius like you to tell me that
    and although you're talking about inter-clanbreeding it sounds more like incest
    you seem to neglect the fact that it's not some family but one of the biggest clans!
    they might have been all family related at some point in the past.. but they also did make up nearly half of konoha when it was founded! you thinks thats doable with like 10 people?
    he wasn't dating his sister or probably even his cousin, he was dating someone of his clan
    they were probably so distantly related that it doesn't even matter anymore

    but hey... thats also an assumption and you're free to like.. err think whatever you want
    so if you really want to think it's incest... have fun doing so!


    'Incest, a game the whole family can play.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sion4ever View Post
    ^so you think?

    i think your post is unnecessary and shallow
    it's a logical consequence since all we know is that he killed the uchiha.. thus she was an uchiha - don't need a genius like you to tell me that
    and although you're talking about inter-clanbreeding it sounds more like incest
    you seem to neglect the fact that it's not some family but one of the biggest clans!
    they might have been all family related at some point in the past.. but they also did make up nearly half of konoha when it was founded! you thinks thats doable with like 10 people?
    he wasn't dating his sister or probably even his cousin, he was dating someone of his clan
    they were probably so distantly related that it doesn't even matter anymore

    but hey... thats also an assumption and you're free to like.. err think whatever you want
    so if you really want to think it's incest... have fun doing so!


    'Incest, a game the whole family can play.'
    You're right. I should've made a topic about the mangekyou sharingan like everyone else instead of bringing up something no one else was discussing.

    What I'm talking about IS incest.

    Yes they were a huge clan we know this. However they are still family unless Uchihas are an entirely different race themselves...which is absurd >_>

    Regardless of how distant the relative is she was most likely still a relative and this post is just to prove something that was yet to be proved. And a lot of people missed that detail as well.

    And yeah, it is still incest no matter how distant the relative. But I guess if you wanna bump uglies with a person that's distantly related and don't want to think of it as incest that's cool too. Go ahead ^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conejo View Post
    And yeah, it is still incest no matter how distant the relative.
    no, it's not
    it only is between closely related persons!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sion4ever View Post
    no, it's not
    it only is between closely related persons!
    Fair enough if you really want to go by dictionary definition then no it's not 'incest' just as long as she was not immediate family. However we still don't know how closely related she was and we will never know. HOWEVER it can't be denied that they were still in the same clan and in some way still related to each other.

    The whole point of the post remains intact whether or not it's incest and it's to support that fact that there's inter(intra?)-clan breeding in the Uchiha clan.

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    i already agreed to the inter-clan breeding
    all i said was that it wasn't incest
    and also that you stated what everyone realized reading the chapter (okay there always will be a loon creating a thread several weeks later telling us about things he realized when rereading)
    thus this thread still lacks something worthy to discuss

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sion4ever View Post
    i already agreed to the inter-clan breeding
    all i said was that it wasn't incest
    and also that you stated what everyone realized reading the chapter (okay there always will be a loon creating a thread several weeks later telling us about things he realized when rereading)
    thus this thread still lacks something worthy to discuss
    I know you did. Also...everyone realized it? I think it's quite the opposite. Most people missed that detail while reading it. There's nothing to discuss unless someone can disprove it. If not it's just an informative post for those that did not figure it out.

    Of course I doubt anyone will admit to not figuring it out while reading the chapter so I guess there's no way for me to prove I was right in posting this. But it is still worth posting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conejo View Post
    I know you did. Also...everyone realized it? I think it's quite the opposite. Most people missed that detail while reading it.
    can't agree to that
    i'm optimistic by nature.. thus i like to think most of people realized that or.. they should have (i did include a loon creating a thread several weeks or months later though)

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    It all depends on personal stance on these things.

    The Uchiha essentially all share the same bloodline, or as I see descended from a single couple in the distant past. So on some level dating within the clan could be like dating a cousin or a distant relative and whether that's right or wrong would depend on a person's personal opinion whether dating a someone related is right or wrong.

    In chinese culture, families don't like pairings where the individuals share the same (maiden) surname because of the possibility of blood relation or family relation on some level. Personally I'm against dating cousins and relatives, so the dating within the clan thing is something I also find a little disturbing.

    As I said though it's all a matter of opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sion4ever View Post
    no, it's not
    it only is between closely related persons!
    Says the society.. what defines a "close related person"?
    One could say brothers only, other could say cousins.. it varies.
    But the fact they are on the same branch I'd consider incest to some extend. Its just a social taboo, it happened, then it got "banned"..

    But back to the topic:
    Like I said on japanese scans it was called "LOVER" not girlfriend.

    Plus he was about 12-14 when that happened, I really doubt he had a girlfriend for that matter, it was a crush most likely.

    Thats why was called "lover" it was a platonic relation ship, where he held with high regards that person, but had to slay her/him.

 

 
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