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    Duststorm is offline Senior Member Respected Member
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamnIt View Post
    why do you guyz think sasuke is weak and win cause the opponent is already half dead? dederia vs sasuke was still the best battle in naruto history. remember when sasuke trew a shuriken at the start of the fight and in the end it helped him kill dederia, thats almost as cool as it can get
    Well Deidara was not half dead that is true but don't you think the abilty to render all of Deidara's attack useless is a huge disadvantage for Deidara.

    Also Sauske manage to do many impossible things during that fight like electrocuting his whole body without harm to himself. Then not suffer a stroke, he would because of the disabled bombs in his veins that would eventually clot his brain. Then being able to summon a huge animal that would require a lot of Chakra and then have enough energy to hypnotize it and hop into its mouth.

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    I personally think the best naruto fights are shikimaru's, he's the only one who uses his brains and ninja equipment. With only one bloody skill, he utilises it pretty darn well.
    Not like the lame old GAR mode when sasuke and naruto fought each other...

    Naruto: Release 3 tails!!! I PWN JOO!!!
    Sasuke: Not in a million years!! Curse seal lvl2!!! TRANSFORM!! RARWRWRWRRWRAR!!!

    At least battles now are a bit better with elements in it and some tatics... Although Sasuke Vs. Itachi wasnt really my thing....

    Itachi (Emo1): What do u see bro?
    Sasuke (Emo2): I see u dead!
    Emo 2 stabs Emo 1.
    It was an illusion...
    Emo 2 stabs Emo 1 again.
    It was another illusion...

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    yeah shikamaru's battles are the best, but i dont think we will ever see him in action again, i hoped shino could do some cool action against marada but that didnt happen. sasuke's battles are promesing to tho, if you look at the one against dederia. it was pretty nicely done

    and i totaly agree on the naruto battles, those are the lames things ever. hope one day he will mature, he even might have, kishi just wont show us 8(


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    I'd like to see a Shikamaru experienced with hardcore combat against Sasuke or Itachi. That would be a good fight.

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    Shikamaru needs a Death Note.


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    ^what he needs is a Big Flashlight!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AtrumIncendia View Post
    I'd like to see a Shikamaru experienced with hardcore combat against Sasuke or Itachi. That would be a good fight.
    You mean...Itachi/Sasuke pull a shunshin or a fast ass jutsu Shikamaru can't keep up with and dies from it?

    The only reason Shika has been able to have such a nice fight against Kakuzu/Hidan is because he got to fight them a 2nd time after seeing their abilities, and because they were lazy and underestimating of the Konoha chuunin.

    And, Kakashi is as smart if not smarter than Shikamaru, and he gets his ass handed to him on a silver platter by half-assed Itachi. Do you really think Shika, without a sharingan, as much battle experience, as much chakra and physical capacity, or jutsus that pwn as hard as Kakashi's can compare to them?

    I love Shika, but he's only upper middle of the pack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by masterrabbit View Post
    ^what he needs is a Big Flashlight!
    Or learn some Katon/Fire jutsu's.

    Quote Originally Posted by Urameshi-sama View Post
    You mean...Itachi/Sasuke pull a shunshin or a fast ass jutsu Shikamaru can't keep up with and dies from it?

    The only reason Shika has been able to have such a nice fight against Kakuzu/Hidan is because he got to fight them a 2nd time after seeing their abilities, and because they were lazy and underestimating of the Konoha chuunin.

    And, Kakashi is as smart if not smarter than Shikamaru, and he gets his ass handed to him on a silver platter by half-assed Itachi. Do you really think Shika, without a sharingan, as much battle experience, as much chakra and physical capacity, or jutsus that pwn as hard as Kakashi's can compare to them?

    I love Shika, but he's only upper middle of the pack.
    That's why I said if he was more experienced in heavy hardcore combat. The Shikamaru now may be smart, but won't stand literally 2 seconds against Sasuke or Itachi with their speed, strength, techniques, kekkei genkais, and experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by masterrabbit View Post
    ^what he needs is a Big Flashlight!
    You mean Sasuke and Itachi don't already have such techniques ?!

    Quote Originally Posted by AtrumIncendia View Post
    That's why I said if he was more experienced in heavy hardcore combat. The Shikamaru now may be smart, but won't stand literally 2 seconds against Sasuke or Itachi with their speed, strength, techniques, kekkei genkais, and experience.
    Hardcore combat still isn't enough. Kakashi is and was much more seasoned than Shikamaru will likely ever be, and just as if not more smart (as I said before, though I concede Shika is probably more creative). He'd still be fodder for Itachi though, and likely Sasuke.

    You're neglecting a few notable things:
    -Sasuke and Itachi (more for the latter than the former) are very strong strategists and opportunists.
    -They have incredible chakra capacities and their sharingan not only gives them more abilities and power, but many abilities and powers that are unknown to others (chakra colors, susanoo, what else is there in that damn bag of tricks?).
    -Both the Uchihas have such hardcore fighting experience (the time doesn't matter, the quality does) due to fighting in war and facing such tough opponents numerous times *cough* Oro *cough*. Unless Shikamaru makes it his personal mission to face S-rank Nin, he's probably never going to get that kind of experience.
    -Shikamaru doesn't value power. He values his civic duty and the village over power. The Uchihas held a huge value on power, and killed family and betrayed people to get stronger.

    But, even if the Uchihas didn't have the intelligence, experience, and ambition, their raw power would be too much for him to handle with just strategy. Sasuke's seal, the sharingan, and the kyuubi have proven time and time again to be Kishi's ultimate hacks that have no boundaries set on them.
    Even though 2 of those don't apply to the Uchihas, the sharingan alone is enough of a hack to validate this incomparibilty.

    Basically, Kakashi can never be as strong as Naruto or Sasuke because he is constrained by human limits, while the other two have hax that defy that parameter. Unfortunately, Shika is a human and is constrained by the same parameter.
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    ^Sasuke lost his seal though.

 

 
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