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    mele-3-4 is offline Senior Member Long Time Member
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    perhaps someone who "recieved" Madara's eyes.
    i like the sound of that theory

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    gummyworms is offline Senior Member Regular
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    then here is another question do u think Pein or Konan know about this

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    Quote Originally Posted by danzo View Post
    I've thought about the same thing, but in the fight where both the 1st and the 2nd are resurrected to fight the 3rd, one of the 1st's jutsu is like the eternal darkness one. Although madara had powerful eyes, maybe he just got beaten up because he couldn't see in the dark .

    (on an interesting side note, apparently there's a difference in the manga and anime to who uses that darkness jutsu. It's the 1st in one, and the 2nd in the other.)
    Yes, another blunder of the anime, in the Manga it is the 1st Hokage who uses it but in the anime it is the 2nd Hokage. Although, it is a genjutsu so if anything a sharingan user should have a better chance against it than most opponents.

    Personally, I suspect the 1st Hokage's ability to suppress chakra had more to do with his victory over Madara than his darkness genjutsu. Although, that is just a guess on my part, the extent of the 1st Hokage's abilities have still not been fully described. The manga does state, however, that he could bend bijuu to his will. Depending on the extent of that ability, could potentially be a huge ace.

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    People need to give the non-sharigan using ninjas a little more credit....naruto with one tail was too much for lvl 2 sharigan and naruto sucks...lvl 2 sharigan is simply overtaken by speed and power...lvl 3(mangekyo sharigan) is genjutsu and Offensive/Defensive Jutsu...but its all jutsu nontheless, and jutsus can be countered, especially by a smart/strong ninja...
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    So it's been brought up that Madara isn't Madara by ranteil. Has anyone thought of the fact that Madara died by the firsts hand and that "this" Madara is the younger brother? If you look back at the older chapters it only shows Madara taking the left eye, and later visuals only show Madara's left eye. In statues and other pictures Madara's right eye is covered by his hair. Yet Tobi is only shows his right eye? Seems suspicious to me.

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    ...It would really suck if you turn out to be right; but that does have a stable foundation for a theory.

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    First, the line "madara's power my power" its a ambigous translation I won't go into again,look at the FAQ Thread.

    Now what you saying is after someone got Madara's eyes, the eye "took" over the body and mind, not only that kept the powers it had? He also specifically said he had "uchiha blood" and shown the sharingan.. not just I have sharingan or such.

    Also to remember:

    What orochimaru was after? No, not just sharingan.. imortality!
    If he knew about tobi/madara, or he knew some part of the secret of uchihas (he was a konohanin afterall)
    And if it involved other people sharingan in some form, to attain imortallity! That was pretty much the reason of him seeking sasuke.

    If you are immortal, why someone else would get your eyes?

    That is assuming what tobi/madara said up until now is true, that he is indeed the real uchiha and has 100or so years old!

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    hmm immortality..interesting
    ok.. so we have a clan that kill each other for power....
    but how about kakashi....how do you think that kakashi developed mangekyou?

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    i think kakashi's special eye technique is not mangekyou but something else which have or nearly have the same ability as the mangekyou.

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    there has been a lot of speculation about how kakashi gained his MS, but with out any new information it is pointless to bring it up again because it will only be people repeating themselves..

 

 
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