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    I always assumed Itachi walked into the rain to send a message to Pein. Pein might have been using the rain jutsu, which senses people.

    Kishi even gives a subtle hint in this pic:
    Naruto 364 page 03 | One Manga
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    Quote Originally Posted by Urameshi-sama View Post
    I -Kisame states he just came out of battle.
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    Note that he was talking about his recent battle with the Jinchuuriki, which he stated it gave him some trouble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DivineVTDragon View Post
    Note that he was talking about his recent battle with the Jinchuuriki, which he stated it gave him some trouble.
    ah i actually agree with you!
    that thought crossed my mind.. but i wanted to recheck how much time actually passed since then

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    Kisame was partnered with Itachi to keep an eye on him. The fight he just had was actually with Itachi at Madaras order. He knew he wouldn't be able to Kill Itachi but he was ordered to weaken him substantially so that Sasuke could defeat him. During the fight Itachi had to use MS at least once. Thats why his eyes started bleading so early. Plus Kisame used his sword to shave of some of Itachis chakra as well.

    I honestly don't believe that it happened that way but it is possible the way the series has been written lately.

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    If madara wanted itachi dead why not do it himself? if he did fight itachi why leave him to die by sasukes hand? sasuke gained nothing from that fight that would help madara in anyway... also... itachi died because of susano (and Kirin) it was made clear by zetsu that it wasnt a good thing to use, and he was also blind after using susano, how would that be 1 (before sasukes) battles fault?..... it was itachis time and he knew it, so he made his move on sasuke as quickly as he could...
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    Maybe because Madara wanted Sasuke to do it. That he wanted Sasuke to develop further and perhaps Madara got plans for Sasuke within the Akatsuki. Sounds stupid, but Madara wanting sasuke to kill Itachi is a part of his plan, and its only a matter of time before he reveals it to us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DivineVTDragon View Post
    Note that he was talking about his recent battle with the Jinchuuriki , which he stated it gave him some trouble.
    I checked this point when I saw the page, but the jinchuuriki capture occurred way before Deidara even died (it happened right after Hidan and Kakuzu were killed actually)! It wouldn't make sense for that to refer to the jinchuuriki battle.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tousen
    Kisame was partnered with Itachi to keep an eye on him. The fight he just had was actually with Itachi at Madaras order. He knew he wouldn't be able to Kill Itachi but he was ordered to weaken him substantially so that Sasuke could defeat him. During the fight Itachi had to use MS at least once. Thats why his eyes started bleading so early. Plus Kisame used his sword to shave of some of Itachis chakra as well.
    Kisame is not strong enough in genjutsu to even do that. He wouldn't be able to counter even the regular sharingan's power at his level (remember how quickly Kakashi negated him?). Mentally speaking, he has always to proven to be around Deidara's wavelength, and we saw how well Deidara did in fighting Sasuke!
    His only strength anyways are his insane chakra, his sword, and his strength. And those would do little if he couldn't touch Itachi, who has superior genjutsu and speed.
    Quote Originally Posted by masterrabit
    If madara wanted itachi dead why not do it himself? if he did fight itachi why leave him to die by sasukes hand? sasuke gained nothing from that fight that would help madara in anyway... also... itachi died because of susano (and Kirin) it was made clear by zetsu that it wasnt a good thing to use, and he was also blind after using susano, how would that be 1 (before sasukes) battles fault?..... it was itachis time and he knew it, so he made his move on sasuke as quickly as he could...
    If you read my last post in this thread, I said I personally believe Madara was the one who attacked Itachi and also supported it. As for Madara's gains and losses, we don't know about that since we know too little about him. It's clear that his battles with Shodaime and Yondaime impaired him somehow, so maybe this impairment prevented him from being able to defeat Itachi.
    As for Zetsu's judgment, we all know his calls are about as reliable as shit on a stick. Remember how Sasuke "died"? Also, Zetsu's white and black side were actually conflicted about how Itachi died at the end of that battle: Naruto 394 page 06 | One Manga
    Look at the very last panel of that page.
    Quote Originally Posted by artifice
    There could be many explanations for this particular point. Poison would likely lead to the symptoms Itachi exhibited as well as explain the pace of his death and the increasing severity of his symptoms. Based on how Itachi was vomiting blood, it is almost certain that his woulds were internal. We have yet to see how Madara fights, if he was the one responsible, he could have used some form of advanced doujutsu with prolonged effects or something along those lines.
    I also realized how well poisoning would fit the bill yesterday night. That's also what I was intending to post today You beat me to it! Another thing to consider with this possibility is that poison can also cause blindness before death.
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    Madara learned Jyuuken~ the other eye is the byakugan!
    Lol but enough with nonsense..


    But you know, poisoning is so.. like coward.. I don't see how fits madara..
    Zetsu on the other hand seems the guy that would do some poisoning..

    Maybe madara ordered zetsu to poison itachi.. but I don't belive madara poisoned himself

    He could've fought itachi + kisame, while giving kisame some genjutsu so he wouldn't know he was tobi fighting.

    Itachi would know, but he was supposed to die, so madara dind't care..

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    ^Zetsu couldn't have poisoned Itachi considering he was pondering Itachi's weakness during the fight.
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    Default madara?

    I got a teorie.. Might be easy to prove otherwise but im to lazy to re-read the 100 last chapters of the manga..

    I don't think Tobi is madara at all.. Since madara had supposibly gained a better and (if im not totaly wrong) permanent Mangeqou sharigan. So why does toby run around with the regular one then?
    Well, what i think is that Tobi is Kekashi's old friend.. As how he only shows half his face.. (right eye), while kekashi got left eye rasengan.. I don't remember how all that shit happened, but i remember his friend dying, and kekashi needed another eye.. But was it ever totaly proven that he died?

    well, just my thought since madara supposibly got a alot better sharingan..

    Sorry for spelling mistakes etc ..
    And please don't flame me just cuz it does not fit what you think.. but i don't mind getting proven wrong, since the story is the story.. And i will find out if im right or wrong later on anyway :P

 

 
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