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    Taishi Ci is offline Senior Member Frequent Poster
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    Default Some thoughts on Sasuke

    This has been bugging me ever since the concept of missing-nins was introduced and Orochimaru and Akatsuki appeared for the first time. You see, I've been wondering about the course of action Sasuke would take if he haven't had an (evil)brother, who is most likely(even after his "defeat") still light years ahead of Sasuke in terms of skills. I think that in this case, Sasuke's growth would be "stunted" in a way, and he would most likely be highly frustrated. Yes, as much as this "hatred" business may seem silly, this is also constituting his development. Besides(at least I believe so), since Sasuke's innate personality is highly bent on becoming "the best" and since Konoha is a somewhat "limited" and closed place, I think that Sas would sooner or later learn all(or most) jutsus in the village and then he would have to go to Orochimaru anyway(or leave the village in any direction whatsoever, to train with other people), because Konoha's jutsus would probably be not enough for him.

    Yes, although this may seem controversial, I think that villages' policies on missing-nins are somewhat flawed. After all, obviously not all missing-nins are dangerous criminals/people who want to destroy or control the village themselves. I have no doubt that most of these people are actually like the Sannin(or specifically, like Jiraiya or Tsunade) - ninja travelling the world, studying jutsu and not necessarily be involved in dangerous business. Yes, one might say something like this: "but you can develop yourself well in your own village!", but I highly doubt this is the case. We have seen that most of character's development in terms of skills has been achieved during some battles, or during intense training bent on defeating some enemy. So, in this case, if this wasn't for Itachi, I think that Sasuke would still be frustrated in some way. Naruto most likely being too annoying for Sas to handle, him learning all the stuff about village, and generally being bored - heck, his observation would probably lead him to the same thing Itachi did to his clan - especially since Sasuke has good observation skills, and maybe he would go the same path Itachi did.


    So, in conclusion, if Itachi didn't exist, and if I was Sasuke, I would either get the fuck out of Konoha, or kill myself due to massive frustration No, really.


    (Yeah, this may seem like the usual "what would be if....." thread, but I had to create it anyway - firstly because these thoughts have been lingering in my mind for quite some time, and secondly because I can related to Sasuke's situation in some way)

    Anyway, discuss!

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    Tousen is offline Senior Member Respected Member
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taishi Ci View Post
    Besides(at least I believe so), since Sasuke's innate personality is highly bent on becoming "the best" and since Konoha is a somewhat "limited" and closed place, I think that Sas would sooner or later learn all(or most) jutsus in the village and then he would have to go to Orochimaru anyway(or leave the village in any direction whatsoever, to train with other people), because Konoha's jutsus would probably be not enough for him.
    Sasuke was never driven to be the best. He was a natural genius. All he waned was acceptance from his father and brother. If Itachi hadn't gone psycho Sasuke would have been fine. When I first saw/read the flashbacks of when he was younger I was almost shocked at the difference in personality. That's because Itachi's actions were the catalyst for all of his personality changes. Actually, I feel like Sasuke was close to what Naruto would have been had he had a family.

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    Taishi Ci is offline Senior Member Frequent Poster
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    Actually, this "acceptance" may be connected with Sasuke's desire of gaining strength to be recognised(yes, just like you said it may be similar to Naruto's case, though still different - mainly because Sasuke was never really treated as a danger or someone weird in general by almost all people from Konoha) - the famous "kunai throwing lessons" he wanted from Itachi could have two sides - Sasuke may have loved Itachi for his strength, but he also may have been jealous for the focus Uchiha clan had on him, and for Itachi's general accomplishments.

    And indeed, I probably used a wrong term: "being the best" should be replaced with "desire to surpass others"(similar in meaning, yet I think it describes Sasuke's state better). Itachi may have been a catalyst of sorts, but living in a revered, respected and generally very powerful clan probably gives anyone a certain type of personality - and I think that being the younger generation, Sasuke would notice things his father/mother wouldn't, and this could cause him to become a missing nin-especially if he encountered someone he couldn't defeat even with "superb Uchiha abilities" and sharingan.


    Naruto wasn't really born in a powerful family(well - at least he didn't know in the beginning that he is the son of Minato), so he, unlike Sasuke, could concentrate on trivial things like friends and becoming a kage OF KONOHA......


    Well, some random thoughts of mine

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    I think it was a bit of both. Sauske did want to surpass his brother, and become the best. Yet at the same time he wanted both his brother and father to reconize him. To him (as with most young kids) these means were tied together. What Sauske didn't realize is that he didn't need to do the extensive training to be reconized by either of them. So in the end if Itachi didn't go and kill his family, Sauske would be aiming not at being the best of his class, but rather trying to beat his brother. This imo could of made him almost as much of a deviant as Naruto (to focused at his goal), although they probably wouldn't of became freinds.

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    I'd say you're using the term missing-nin wrongly. As for Jirayja and Tsunade the term I've never seen used. When they where away from the village they where simply not just there. But Orochimaro for example, he betrayed the village and went into hiding. With all their secrets etc.
    So a missing-nin isn't simply a ninja away from his village, even if the village itself has no clue of where he or she may be. But someone who's betrayed his village.
    So in that case, even if Sauske had left to find other places and people too train with, he would still most likely have kept his ties to his village, hence not a missing-nin. Just a ninja out and about.

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    ^ninja walkabout Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by LarsDeman View Post
    I'd say you're using the term missing-nin wrongly. As for Jirayja and Tsunade the term I've never seen used. When they where away from the village they where simply not just there. But Orochimaro for example, he betrayed the village and went into hiding. With all their secrets etc.
    So a missing-nin isn't simply a ninja away from his village, even if the village itself has no clue of where he or she may be. But someone who's betrayed his village.
    So in that case, even if Sauske had left to find other places and people too train with, he would still most likely have kept his ties to his village, hence not a missing-nin. Just a ninja out and about.
    Well, that would have been true had Sasuke not openly betrayed his village to join the village of sound. But then again, if he hadn't killed Orochimaru, then there would be little to no trouble in calling him a missing-nin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taishi Ci View Post
    I think that Sas would sooner or later learn all(or most) jutsus in the village and then he would have to go to Orochimaru anyway(or leave the village in any direction whatsoever, to train with other people), because Konoha's jutsus would probably be not enough for him.
    wow i think your giving the sharigan too much credit there...you must be one of sasuke's fanboys/girls... there were a bunch of sharigan users and i dont here any of them learning every jutsu and whatnot, even uchiha madara didnt leave the village because of lack of challenge in the village, he got thrown out by force by the first hokage(because they had differing ideals) so yeah (uchiha=god I dont think so GET OVER IT).... if itachi never existed, sasuke might have become a strong ninja, and joined the anbu and etc....he would have taken a similar path as kakashi...because the uchiha clan was respectable and if his family was still around he would be more focused on them then on gettin strong and leaving like your trying to say...
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    actually i believe sasuke said in a flashback that he wanted to join the police squad like the other uchihas..he also tried to convince itachi to join

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    why ppl eager to call someone a fanboy? there is no sense in it, even if its true.

    Other than getting your thinking out, there is no point to this at all.
    It would be more benefitial to consider what will he do after he kill itachi, but we had a thread for that.

    But let me try to entertain the idea a bit. Sasuke would....no I give up. this is the most useless thinkg someone spend time doing, thinking what if someting didnt happen in a MANGA.
    Killing time while waiting for the next chapter. OnePiece, that is.

 

 
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