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    jjhjjh is offline Senior Member Respected Member
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    regarding light element, what would be an example? would it be something like a beam of energy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by irecinius View Post
    Chidori/Raikiri is something

    A Electrical Rasengan is something totally diferent:
    Kakashi said not even Minato(The 4th, creator of the rasengan... genius that comes only once a century(? or decade?)) couldn't do a elemental manipulation into the rasengan.

    But I guess "some" version is just a very primitive attempt of the elemental rasengan and probably had no boost or effect whatsoever..
    Just like Sasuke's first attempt at Katon.. It was a "Katon" but I wouldn't really call that lit fart as a true katon:gokakyu
    yeah chidori is as close as kakashi could get when combining Elemental/Spacial techs together.

    Quote Originally Posted by jjhjjh View Post
    regarding light element, what would be an example? would it be something like a beam of energy?
    for now i dont think there is a "light and dark" element, but rather Chakra divided into Light/dark(Ying/Yang). like the ninetails chakra that was sealed inside of naruto, i think it was only the Yang chakra?
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    yeah chidori is as close as kakashi could get when combining Elemental/Spacial techs together.
    If you take that, then we can say that he didn't copy rasengan but learned the hard way, Why?
    Kakashi developed Chidori BEFORE getting the sharingan.
    And we also don't know exactly WHEN minato developed rasengan.. So its either before kakashi got sharingan or after.

    If Minato developed AFTER, chidori has nothing to do with rasengan.

    If he developed BEFORE, all we get is that Kakashi learned rasengan the hard way.. and we still in the blind, about the relation of chidori/rasengan..

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    ^we're not really in the dark(or at least im not)...
    while training Naruto, Kakashi says that he developed Chidori after learning (and failing to add elemental chakra to the) Rasengan, which means Minato knew it before Kakashi got the Sharingan, and that Kakashi learned the Rasengan before getting the Sharingan, meaning he didnt copy it. and even in a what if situation like->What if Kakashi had the Sharingan and tried copying the rasengan, he still wouldnt because he himself says that he can only copy up until A-Rank Spatial manipulation. And the Rasengan is a S+ Ranked Spatial Manipulation Jutsu(With no seals to boot).
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    Kakashi says that he developed Chidori after learning (and failing to add elemental chakra to the) Rasengan
    I don't ever remember him saying that..

    He did say he also couldn't infuse eletricity onto the rasengan.. thats all nothing that chidori was a failed attempt at elemental rasengan.


    Maybe tho he did develop after learning rasengan, and wanting to SURPASS Minato, he developed from ground up Chidori, a total different thing as rasengan..

    Other thing there is no relation of rank and what you can and cannot copy, he said himself that the only thing that can't be copied are Kekkei Genkais(Blood limit)
    Yamato's wood, Haku's Ice, Naruto's 9-Tail..

    If he saw being performed he could even do the Dead-Demon Soul consuming seal...

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    ^ Naruto 321 page 07 | One Manga
    Naruto 321 page 09 | One Manga <--kakashi clearly states the reason why he made chidori was because he(like minato) couldnt fuse his rasengan with his elemental chakra.^explaining what i said before.

    Naruto 321 page 10 | One Manga <-- Kakashi states that he can just barely copy spatial jutsu at the A-Rank level(which is just regular recomposition). The rasengan isnt a A-rank spatial jutsu-its an even higher or highest level= S-rank+ so he couldnt copy it.

    i believe the sharingan itself is only limited by its owners own abilities, meaning that if he did see the Dead-Demon Soul consuming seal jutsu like you said he still wouldnt be able to do it, this is because that jutsu probably needs a contract just like Naruto's frog summonings do. and if he didnt sign the contract how could he do it?
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