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    artifice is offline Senior Member Regular
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duststorm View Post
    In theory, yes because clones are are perfect copies with blood line limits and everything. But as I said before unless Itachi would give it enough chakra so it will not black out or die after using MS once.
    I think Mangekyou Sharingan is an exception, when Itachi's clone faced Naruto he said "Don't worry I won't use the Mangekyou Sharingan, or more appropriately I can't use it right now." Could be that it was as a result of the chakra limitation but I doubt it, even at 30% he should have been able to manage 1 Mangekyou move. Also, I don't think it is the chakra consumption that is so much the issue with the Mangekyou sharingan but rather the strain it puts on the eyes and body, in this battle the Mangekyou seems to have taken way more of a toll out of Itachi than it has in the past. When he first got it he seemed to use it effortlessly but each time he has been shown using it the effects on him have been more drastic.

    It would bring up interesting questions regarding the Mangekyou's negative effects, if he indeed could use it through another body. For example, would his eyes be damaged or would the effects simply carry over to the vessel. I don't think he can use the Mangekyou through an alternate body but it is an interesting thought.

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    I wouldn't be surprised if sasuke beats this and Itachi unleashes another eye technique (the most powerful/fucked up for the eyes).

    When will the star show up again for his damn comic?

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    even at 30% he should have been able to manage 1 Mangekyou move
    Remember that after he used Tsukiyomi on Sasuke, and Amaterasu on the Toad's stomach, he was EXAUSTED, and needed to rest for a few days?

    So.. I'd say a MS tech, use rought between 40-49% of his chakra pool.
    Kakashi also only used twice his, and COLAPSED, so the toll on the body for using a MS tech is big.. 30% not enough
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    Quote Originally Posted by Purple Filth View Post
    I wouldn't be surprised if sasuke beats this and Itachi unleashes another eye technique (the most powerful/fucked up for the eyes).

    When will the star show up again for his damn comic?
    Who would be surprised? We pretty much all suspected that Itachi also has a MS jutsu called Susano.
    So if he goes all "Here is my ultimate technique......SUSANO" after his Ameratsu has little to no effect on Sasuke, pretty much nobody will be like "wft....I didn't see that one coming".
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    I think its either Itachi dies or he wusses out and escapes. That would be better than him dying so easily but it still sucks as to how he will escape maybe he uses amaterasu to act as a diversion so he can do his jutsu to disappear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by irecinius View Post
    Remember that after he used Tsukiyomi on Sasuke, and Amaterasu on the Toad's stomach, he was EXAUSTED, and needed to rest for a few days?

    So.. I'd say a MS tech, use rought between 40-49% of his chakra pool.
    Kakashi also only used twice his, and COLAPSED, so the toll on the body for using a MS tech is big.. 30% not enough
    As I said, I really don't think it is a matter of chakra level, otherwise the affect would be more varied between users, according to their chakra level, rather than their condition worsening based on use. Itachi's symptoms following the usage of his Mangekyou sharingan are getting worse not because he has less chakra but because his eyes are diminishing. It isn't actually shown so it is hard to say for certain but I assume that when Itachi and Madara destroyed the Uchiha Clan he used the Mangekyou. At the very least he used it twice on Sasuke and I highly doubt that was the only one he used it on at that time, which I would take to mean he used it multiple times. Following that he seemed unaffected, the next time we see him use it is many years later and the damage from use is starting to become more evident. When he faced Jiraiya he was tired but otherwise seemed relatively fine and that was after using both Tsukiyomi and Amaterasu. Now, against Sasuke, the result of using Tsukiyomi left him nearly crippled while using Amaterasu appears to have taken all he had. This isn't because Itachi has a lower chakra capacity than he did in the past but rather his eye condition has merely worsened and thus the strain is greater. Of course much of this is conjecture but I think the evidence points more in this direction.

    In the case of Kakashi, the effects were rather great but he has always had a harder time dealing with the effects of the sharingan (recall his battle with Zabuza), hence the reason he leaves his covered. Itachi leaves his sharingan activated constantly and appears to be unaffected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by artifice View Post
    I don't understand why people need to wait until the fight is over to comment on it, that seems a bit like not reviewing a tv series until it's finished. Sure it could end up being much better but in the meantime I see no reason not to comment on what has already been conveyed. Yes, I agree our information is far from being complete and therefor prone to inaccuracies but that doesn't mean we can't make observations from what has been clearly shown to draw accurate conclusions. Plus a lot of what is being said is fact or deeply rooted in it. Like it or not Itachi has been incredibly hyped up, if Kishimoto didn't intend it that way frankly that's just plain terrible writing.

    I agree that Akatsuki isn't invincible, nor should they be, but when they are defeated illogically or portrayed as being far weaker than there status implies it is not only disappointing it is stupid. Even though I was disappointed by a number of the Akatsuki battles/deaths I felt they almost all were more satisfying and made more sense than what we have seen so far from Itachi. (Yes, I know he isn't dead and the fight isn't over but he is clearly taking a beating, the last chapter made him look like he is at the end of his rope) Deidara's death made sense and his battles credited the level of which he was portrayed. Sasori's death seemed more far fetched but at least the fact that he was facing his grandmother/former teacher added to it's believability. Also the fact that his opponents were both medical ninja made them well geared to face a ninja of Sasori's disposition. Hidan was another one who I thought died too easily but his abilities at least explained why he was feared. Kakuzu didn't last long but he was facing off against Kakashi, Naruto, and Yamato (with team 10 assisting) plus he was ambushed and they used Hidan's ability against him so his defeat didn't phase me so much. I expected far more out of Itachi and so far have gotten much less. All the other Akatsuki fights so far have been less anticipated and less important yet they have all been more satisfying.

    Yes, this fight could get better, I am really hoping it does, as it stands though it is looking doubtful.
    Dont want to include such long quote, but it brings up a one point I want to say. Yes, this manga is bad in a few ways. Thats the sole reason why i dont expect great things come out of it to start with. unlike most of you here. I personally chose not to read it, but I need to read it to discuss with my roommates at dinner tables. Enough about me. Keep on reading to see how bad it might end.
    Killing time while waiting for the next chapter. OnePiece, that is.

 

 
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