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    Heartlessfang is offline Senior Member Long Time Member
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    But after that he was caught in genjutsu and then we see him on the ground out of the genjutsu..... I think we're missing something here.....I think kishi made the passage of time between those scenes seem like a few seconds using the dialouge so we don't realize another exchange happened.... eh....maybe I'm reading too much into this....

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckiechuck View Post

    The first point is: if you're gonna post, it would be nice to say something new or interesting, or funny even. I dont post just to agree with people "dang, that's what i thought, too, let go have coffee toghether"

    the second: wait till the fight is over and discuss about how its bad or good. but who stop you right. just me saying is all.

    the third: some the stuff i say are my opinion obviously, but i use that as an example to show you how what you make of the situation is not objective. The itachi hype, and how you think he is important maybe more than the author intended. Like i said, i think Itachi is important at least toward Sasuke's growth, sure he killed a clan, big loss for the village. and in term of ranking, he is very much like the rest of akatsuki, more or less: can be defeated, when they are, you undoubtedly feel disappointed.

    So, im not defensive here, just hope it clears up any confusing in my earlier post. What i say in the end is really the whole point summed up. i'm glad you agreed.
    I don't understand why people need to wait until the fight is over to comment on it, that seems a bit like not reviewing a tv series until it's finished. Sure it could end up being much better but in the meantime I see no reason not to comment on what has already been conveyed. Yes, I agree our information is far from being complete and therefor prone to inaccuracies but that doesn't mean we can't make observations from what has been clearly shown to draw accurate conclusions. Plus a lot of what is being said is fact or deeply rooted in it. Like it or not Itachi has been incredibly hyped up, if Kishimoto didn't intend it that way frankly that's just plain terrible writing.

    I agree that Akatsuki isn't invincible, nor should they be, but when they are defeated illogically or portrayed as being far weaker than there status implies it is not only disappointing it is stupid. Even though I was disappointed by a number of the Akatsuki battles/deaths I felt they almost all were more satisfying and made more sense than what we have seen so far from Itachi. (Yes, I know he isn't dead and the fight isn't over but he is clearly taking a beating, the last chapter made him look like he is at the end of his rope) Deidara's death made sense and his battles credited the level of which he was portrayed. Sasori's death seemed more far fetched but at least the fact that he was facing his grandmother/former teacher added to it's believability. Also the fact that his opponents were both medical ninja made them well geared to face a ninja of Sasori's disposition. Hidan was another one who I thought died too easily but his abilities at least explained why he was feared. Kakuzu didn't last long but he was facing off against Kakashi, Naruto, and Yamato (with team 10 assisting) plus he was ambushed and they used Hidan's ability against him so his defeat didn't phase me so much. I expected far more out of Itachi and so far have gotten much less. All the other Akatsuki fights so far have been less anticipated and less important yet they have all been more satisfying.

    Yes, this fight could get better, I am really hoping it does, as it stands though it is looking doubtful.

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    Actually, considering everything that's happening, I consider it quite believable, but quite disappointing too. I mean, it's true that ALL of us expected like (extreme, multiple ninjutsu) + (awesome taijutsu) + (mangekyou sharingan) and what not...it's just that we're disappointed that he's now actually showing everything he's capable of. Granted, that's disappointing.

    But you can see the sense behind it. It only really went downhill after Sasuke overcame Tsukuyomi. Maybe I'll put it this way:

    Beginning
    quite even (genjutsu) - some fighting (ALSO genjutsu)

    Middle
    Tsukuyomi(Itachi apparently wins) - Dispel(Sasuke overcomes it) - Vision blurred further, pain, side effects (causing slower reflexes) - Amaterasu

    That's how it goes. So the only real problem is Sasuke overcoming Tsukuyomi, which apparently causes Itachi a lot of problems. Had Itachi NOT used Tsukuyomi, it would likely have been smooth sailing all the way.

    The fact that now he's in bad shape is somewhat believable, but I think he'll buck up some more later, if his eyes don't hurt too much.

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    Is it just me or does anyone else think Deidara put up way more of a fight against Sasuke than Itachi is? Itachi's getting his ass handed to him and the Amaterasu is just a lame way of building suspense before Sasuke resumes the ass kickery -_-
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    I think those who think that Itachi can turn tables around in this fight are being too optimistic like how some people said that Jiraiya will live . He is half blind, his eyes are bleeding so they are getting worse ,also he has a piece of metal lodge in him. Sauske most likely has some miracle jutsu to counter Itachi Amaterasu because Kishi would never let his favorite lose a fight . Also his death been foreshadowed with the whole Sauske eyes have become stronger.

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    Itachi probably will lose this match, if he dies in the process, becomes no use to Akataski ( like hidan) or looses his eyes, its prety clear that Sasuke will win since it is his year, this year, like every year it had been of the Naruto manga.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duststorm View Post
    I think those who think that Itachi can turn tables around in this fight are being too optimistic like how some people said that Jiraiya will live.
    Whoa whoa. Please don't go there. Jiraiya's fight is -nothing- compared to this garbage. I, personally, thought that he laid it down like a sanin should have, given his predisposition on his enemy's abilities and what not. Jiraiya gave us one hell of a fight and I expected nothing less...hell, I wouldn't stand for it. Sasuke knows, for the most part due to them having the same blood-line limit, a good deal about Itachi; enough to grant him some level ground when taking him on. Yet, I -don't- believe that its enough to give him the higher ground...viola, look whats happening. Twist the matter how ever you please...you bring a complete ignoramus about the Nartuo-verse into this fight and its clear to tell whose winning this bout.

    However, considering the story-line and that we're not oblivious to whats been happening, I think its a reasonable assumption to believe Itachi will twist this around. Don't you think?


    But after that he was caught in genjutsu and then we see him on the ground out of the genjutsu..... I think we're missing something here.....I think kishi made the passage of time between those scenes seem like a few seconds using the dialouge so we don't realize another exchange happened.... eh....maybe I'm reading too much into this....
    I'm one of those distant optimists that still hangs on the thread that Itachi said something to Naruto. Otherwise, I would find that to be really hilarious supposing I was a bystander on the scene.

    Itachi: Naruto! I have something -very- important to tell you.
    Naruto: F%^& you! Fight me!
    Itachi: No! I really have to tell you! *Subdues Naruto*
    Naruto: GAH!
    Itachi: Nvm, olol. kthxbie. *POOF*
    Naruto: ...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamDaPsy View Post
    Whoa whoa. Please don't go there. Jiraiya's fight is -nothing- compared to this garbage. I, personally, thought that he laid it down like a sanin should have, given his predisposition on his enemy's abilities and what not. Jiraiya gave us one hell of a fight and I expected nothing less...hell, I wouldn't stand for it. Sasuke knows, for the most part due to them having the same blood-line limit, a good deal about Itachi; enough to grant him some level ground when taking him on. Yet, I -don't- believe that its enough to give him the higher ground...viola, look whats happening. Twist the matter how ever you please...you bring a complete ignoramus about the Nartuo-verse into this fight and its clear to tell whose winning this bout.

    However, considering the story-line and that we're not oblivious to whats been happening, I think its a reasonable assumption to believe Itachi will twist this around. Don't you think?
    You know I was referring to the fore shadowing not the fight itself like how he reminisce on the past with Tsunade, asking Tsunade to take the bet that he will die and sending the extra nine tail fox seal back to naruto. So plenty of fore shadowing about his death. Madara said also that Sauske eyes surpassed Itachi, that might indicate that Sauske has become stronger. All I meant was that everything points to Itachi losing.

    Anyway I also think Jiraiya vs pain awesome from the start to the end. I hope when it get gets animated and they can do it justice, not always interrupting the fight with flashbacks as with all of the fights so far.

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    Sasuke only beats the handicapped. Isn´t that so cool?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathbringerpt View Post
    Sasuke only beats the handicapped. Isnīt that so cool?
    LOL, so true same with oro, Sasuke attacked him on his death bed.

 

 
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