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    Ringmaster is offline Senior Member Regular
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    kicked the spoilers ass..

    I would just like to note that, if the First hokage could beat the "immortal" then i'm sure Naruto will be able to take Sasuke on after he gains the magic eyes.

    I can't help but feel that when this is turned into an anime the best possible song that could start it off is that one played at the end of Jay and Silent Bob Strikes back "How many people wanna kick some ass?"

    I'm finally kinda curious as to how this is going to turn out.. up until now i've felt that the whole Sasuke arc was kinda stupid and just wanted to get back to Naruto's training.. but now i'm somewhat interested. Bravo Kishi~

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    I think Itachi is still not revealing everything (and leaving out or distorting Uchiha history/occurences) considering that so many questions remain unanswered. You mentioned the unexplained ease of Madara stealing his bro's eyes, but theres also the issue of why Madara's power has waned since he gained this "perfect" sharingan, how an "invincible immortal" can be beaten by Shodaime hokage, the clan's actual affinity to the kyuubi, the existence of the Uchiha clan in Konoha after Madara's defeat, how Madara was made the leader of the clan earlier, etc.
    well, Madara probably lost his power and sunk down after the battle with the First Hokage. Consider it, Shodaime probably thought Madara was dead (he would be to risky to leave alive) so obviously he must have tried to kill him. Whatever he did, it was strong enough to kill, and Madara was strong enough to survive.

    As for HOW Shodaime beat Madara...probably something to do with his Mokuton abilities, and his ability to control bijuu (which would counter Madara's control over the Kyuubi).

    All in all, good chapter. Naruto's really picking up speed now.

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    damn it!!! i was so sure there was more to itachi than being a lunatic. but alas all he wanted to do all this time was kill sasuke at the right moment..im dissapointed


    although i liked the chapter. cleared up a few things

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    I find it interesting that Madara's original Mangakyou sharingan appears different from Itachi's and his brother's is appears to be the same one Itachi possesses. I won't hypothesize too much about what the differences are but I wonder if this will change what type of abilities are awakened depending on the types combined. For example if Sasuke activates a Mangakyon identical to Madara's and Itachi takes them, will his final Sharingan be somehow different from Madara's because their original types where different. Or if Sasuke's Mangekyou is the same as Itachi's will that have some sort of affect as well.

    It's really difficult to say what will come of this, there are still a lot of unknowns and a lot of different ways this could go down. Regardless, I hope both of these characters survive because I feel they both have a lot more to offer to the plot. From what I could gather from this chapter I am guessing Itachi's eyesight is almost close to gone based on the highly faded image of Sasuke that appeared to be from his perspective also I get the impression that Sasuke is still holding something back. So this fight could still go either way. Under normal circumstances I don't see how Sasuke could possibly be on par with Itachi but Itachi's diminished eye sight could give Sasuke a victory, similar to what happened with Orochimaru.

    Personally, I loved this chapter, finally we are seeing the story take a darker turn. The secret at least turned out to be something shocking that could really change everything. I wasn't a big fan of Itachi's uncharacteristic out burst but I wouldn't read too much into it. He still seemed to be his usual calm self at the end of the chapter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicholas71 View Post
    well, Madara probably lost his power and sunk down after the battle with the First Hokage.
    Great theory. Unfortunately, this chapter directly said that Madara survived the battle and maintained the power of his eyes after VoTE round 1.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nicholas71 View Post
    As for HOW Shodaime beat Madara...probably something to do with his Mokuton abilities, and his ability to control bijuu (which would counter Madara's control over the Kyuubi).
    I think you're assuming too much about Shodai and Madara's abilities. I doubt biju suppressing abilities would have had much of a role in the powerplay between Madara and Shodai since its virtually useless when two non-jinchuriki ninjas are facing each other (unless Madara summoned the Kyuubi, which is a possibility since the chap implies Madara has summoned the Kyuubi before the last attack).

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    I totally did not see that coming. However, I totally lost respect for Itachi when he snapped and did the crazy face. I always saw him as a calm guy who didn't lose it.

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    i think itachi losing it made him look more human

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dante Obscuri View Post
    There's something I do not understand, though. Both brothers were supposed to be equal on terms of power of technique and power, no? If that's so, are we supposed to assume they had a fight.
    - Nope. He ripped his brother's eyes (or eye) out while he was sleeping. Judging from the imagery. Which is nasty and crazy and evil, but not impossible, cause (a) he's an incredible ninja himself, so sneaking up on a sleeping person regardless of their power should be pretty easy for him and (b) in the Naruto-verse, styles and approaches tend to make fights and not 'power levels'. So having a strategical advantage to begin with and a ton of power to back it up, makes it easily believable that Madara could have slaughtered his brother.

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    what if, madara stole his brother's left eye, and his brother stole madara's right eye. every picture of madara only shows his left eye (other than pictures before he stole his brother's eyes or eye). if that's the case, tobi (aka danzou or whoever you believe tobi is) is madara's brother. which can also mean sasuke and itachi will have one eye at the end of this arc. maybe, probably not, but maybe that's why madara is a supposed failure, because he has only one eye. and look at kakashi and obito, have one sharingan eye each. maybe there's a theme going on here with one eye sharingan hahaha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R3dKnight View Post
    There wasn't any fight on Madara sickbed.
    he just plucked his brother's eye out and inserted in his own eye sockets
    Well that's pretty dumb since you have no one or doctors to look to tend your wounds

    But yes he's an Uchiha and thus he can do his own eye surgery on his own
    blindfolded
    Uhhhh, Madara assembled and controlled an ultra-powerful team of shinobi, a Demi-god, and the Nine Tails itself...and you think he's going to have trouble doing a surgery that Kakashi's 12 year old team mate could do?

    Somehow I doubt he'd have any problem with it. Call me crazy.

    Quote Originally Posted by sharingan devil View Post
    so.. now we can see who is the real Mr. EMO here.....


    the title goes to....

    yes, Itachi ....
    So plucking out your siblings eyes to gain ultimate power is "Emo"? Huh. No wonder they all wear those long bangs over the one side of their face! That explains a lot!
    Last edited by kaom; 01-28-2008 at 09:38 PM. Reason: Double post.

 

 
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