View Poll Results: Is Pain someone we know?

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    Bill Got killed is offline Senior Member Well Known
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    that sound s possible because tobi and pein are possessed while nagato having consciousness is being controlled and manipulated by sages spirit and tobi is possesed by madara because they are the crazy people who are possessed.....
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    i have always thought pein is Nagato because the rinnegan is the only thing the bodies have in common, unless the rinnegan was somehow taken from him, though he still holds a connection with konan which suggests pain was one of the members from that team
    Last edited by mele-3-4; 12-08-2007 at 06:48 PM. Reason: mis-spelling pein. my bad, i usually never spell it pain but for some reason i spaced on the spelling

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    Kotoshi is offline Member Frequent Poster
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    its not pain.
    its PEIN dammit.

    ペイン = PE I N = PEIN. its not パイン

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    Thanks for the correction.

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    I think the fact that Konan is in direct contact with Pain means that Yahiko was the last body taken by Pain.

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    ^Well, Pain or Pein doesn't matter. The Katakana is just most likely gotten from English words. So, translator preferred Pain. There are cases before like マイトガイ (Maito Gai), Kishimoto most probably meant Might Guy. But translator doesn't seem to grant Kishi's wish and stick to Gai.

    Back to the topic, Pain is getting more and more blur.

    Quote Originally Posted by adonai View Post
    The prophecy was given when Jiraiya was relatively young, specifically, you can notice that he met Nagato, Konan, and Yahiko when he was significantly older. And since he met Fuuma Pain when he was so young, this basically eliminates Nagato or Yahiko as possible masterminds of the "collect shinobi Jiraiya knows and get them interested in body piercing and weird color contacts" plan (if it is in fact a plan). They wouldn't know of any connection to the Fuuma ninja, since Jiraiya himself apparently forgot about the guy until just now.

    Another possibility is that the bodies were collected by Pain (who or whatever that is) randomly, but because of the "travel the world" part of the prophecy, Jiraiya was fated to gain knowledge of each of them, which is what allows him to figure out who or what Pain is at this moment. Unfortunately, this doesn't account for what’s actually happening and tells us nothing about Jiraiya just realized.
    Everything is so blur. I guess the probably Pain collecting the other 5 bodies during travelling around the world is high. Jiraiya didn't speak out anything he knows about Pain, the previous chapter ended with Jiraiya had a hunch of Pain's identity and the latest chapter ended with Jiraiya being defeated(most likely) and we know nothing much about Pain. Kishimoto better explain the situation the next chapter.

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    Everything is so blur. I guess the probably Pain collecting the other 5 bodies during travelling around the world is high. Jiraiya didn't speak out anything he knows about Pain, the previous chapter ended with Jiraiya had a hunch of Pain's identity and the latest chapter ended with Jiraiya being defeated(most likely) and we know nothing much about Pain. Kishimoto better explain the situation the next chapter.
    He's probably not going to explain, which is probably why he separated chapter 302 into three different fights. Kishi is notorious for leaving us hanging and failing to deliver in order compensate for the wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adonai View Post
    One thing I have noticed that may be pretty important:

    The prophecy was given when Jiraiya was relatively young, specifically, you can notice that he met Nagato, Konan, and Yahiko when he was significantly older. And since he met Fuuma Pain when he was so young, this basically eliminates Nagato or Yahiko as possible masterminds of the "collect shinobi Jiraiya knows and get them interested in body piercing and weird color contacts" plan (if it is in fact a plan). They wouldn't know of any connection to the Fuuma ninja, since Jiraiya himself apparently forgot about the guy until just now.
    Jiraiya fought the Fuuma guy after he met Nagato, Konan and Yahiko. When he met those three he was still in a team with Tsunade and Orochimaru. When he met the Fuuma guy he had already left Konoha to travel the world and write his book (and we know that Orochimaru left Konoha before Jiraiya did, so that completely proves it).

    As for what Pain's true identity is, I don't think we're actually supposed to be able to figure it out, it seems impossible. It was just Kishimoto's way of putting a cliffhanger ending on this chapter to ensure we read the next one (just like he tries to do every chapter). It could be absolutely anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadDogMike View Post
    Jiraiya fought the Fuuma guy after he met Nagato, Konan and Yahiko. When he met those three he was still in a team with Tsunade and Orochimaru. When he met the Fuuma guy he had already left Konoha to travel the world and write his book (and we know that Orochimaru left Konoha before Jiraiya did, so that completely proves it).
    It's not like he had to be with his team all the time, he went on the mountain to train, and at that time he seemed pretty young.

    Besides, here's definitive proof of the order of the two events: the prophecy said that he will have a student that will change the world, if he had already taught Nagato then he wouldn't qualify for the prophecy anyways (which I assume would have been obvious to Jiraiya and the two toads).

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    The way I understood it was that he didn't leave for his journey straight away, but the prophecy was that later in his life he would go on a journey.

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    look at where the guy comes from underwater and also that he has black hair something that none of the others have my feeling is that the real body and its indeed not nagoto my other idea is i think i know how the others have the eye thing

    back when they were sucking out gara's one tail Kisama and Itachi created exate duplicates of themselves with 10% or something power. Also Kisama's sword was duplicated as well as itachi's sharingan's presuming that this ability could copy these 6 ring eyes. what if its specific to only duplicating onto these bodys the eyes and not the rest of him. I think thats why they all have the same eyes they are basicly the bodys with the full power of the eyes being transfered that those bolts are so how conected otherwise why have them even if they are a fasion statement they are probably some sort of control rod to maintain the eyes ex.

 

 
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