Thread: Obtaining Mangekyo Sharigan

He already said that he is Madara.

Originally Posted by neruke

He already said that he is Madara.

no he said he had his power

Originally Posted by gaara19

no he said he had his power

You obviously refuse to believe the words of Japanese translators as it contradicts with your own theories.

Originally Posted by gaara19

no he said he had his power

omg you shoud just team up with DamnIt, damn it!!!apparently you 2 have the same ideas

Originally Posted by DamnIt

yeah why always bringing the dead onces back in game only do that with obito !

Don't kid me, Obito is dead and we know it. Naruto will only be the laughing stock if they brought Obito back into action and the only way Kishimo might prevent it is either Obito stays dead or he has a very very good history as to how and why Obito was dug out of his boulder to live as a evil vengeful character who vows Konoha's destruction. Somehow I don't see him falling that low even for Naruto.

I could see that Kishi brought him back so people would read the manga...he constantly wants to make some "dramatic" events that keeps us clinged to the manga...

Would he do that at the risk of losing all common sense and logic? Because bringing Obito back would personally merit him being branded to have creativity of a 12 year old by me and I'm not sure if I'll be the only one thinking on this frequency. People would read his manga regardless of whether he brings back Obito or not I would think. They are already interested and mind boggled to see just who is inside that mask, would people then be glad or excited that their guess was right? Or would they be shocked and surprised to find out their guess was way off course from the real culprit behind the mask? It's like seeing a difference of a kid knowing whats inside their christmas present or not knowing what it is. People generally watched it for the suspense and awesome fight scenes rather than Dramatic effect. At least that seemed like the recent change than in the past when things really were dramatic like the time when Iruka told off his comrade saying "He may be the 9 tails fox, thing inside him killed my parents and alot of people, its true i hate the 9 tails fox. BUT He is a excellent ninja and he is not the 9 tails fox he is Uzumaki Naruto!" little things like that which makes you have a tear, thats what I'd call dramatic lol. Right now though its in middle of secret warfare so I would disagree, people watch it for the suspense and thrill of knowing who wears that mask that is Tobi

Originally Posted by Ryoga-san

You obviously refuse to believe the words of Japanese translators as it contradicts with your own theories.

Actually, my scanlation says the same thing as his. I can't give you the exact same words, since I'm at work at the moment, but what he said in the scanlation I have is very close to this:

"...my power, the power of Madara."

Take that as you will, because it can be seen in two different ways:

a) he inherited Madara's powers, or
b) he IS Madara, hence the powers belong to him

For the people above me that do not belive and do not search the forum!!!

Originally Posted by irecinius

he IS madara..

"kono" when used before a persons name like that "kono uchiha madara"
means: I, Uchiha madara.

Thats just like "a" and "an" rule.. its a rule.. Kono + name = me
Its set in stone, there is nothing depending of translation..

Now some groups translated somewhat different, but thats for to take into a english context.
But the essence is still that he himself said he is Uchiha Madara and have his power

The translation is ambigous because text itself is ambigous, but its definitive on where he is madara or not!

Ok im with Dammit in the thing that Tobi is not Madara, but im with the rest in the thing of Tobi being dead, Im wishing that the real AL to be someone different, someone else, just eradicate this frustration that kishimoto has bring upon me T_T please have some mercy with this whole bringing dead people and old apprentices and friends to live SAY NO TO ........ (introduce text :P )