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    Ryoga-san is offline Senior Member Long Time Member
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    Default Why I hate the Tengu theory

    The title of this thread might be a little misleading, as I don't really hate the Tengu theory. I enjoyed reading it, I admit that I got a kick out of doing so, and I am impressed by the thought and work putting into it. But I`m an impatient guy, and the fact that so many people takes that theory for granted and are quoting it as facts really gets to me.

    For those of you who haven't read it, this is the theory I`m talking about. A good read indeed. http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=106576

    I want to start by reminding you all about how something that has to be shared to the society as belief, but has absolutely no arguments that makes sense to back it up, is spreading among the people. Let's look at religion. A Christian missionary travels to Scandinavia where everyone is practicing the worship of the Aesir. The missionary tries to convince them that Christianity makes more sense than their giant killing viking gods, but they (as they are theory bashers) laughs in his face and kills him. More missionaries are killed off by the theory basher vikings because there is no way that the Christians can convince them that their religion is the right one. "The book said it" isn't a valid argument in the eyes of the Aesir worshippers. So the missionaries takes a new initiative and kills the theory basher vikings, destroys their rune stones and all their indications of being followers of another religion than Christianity and then forces everyone to forget that the Aesir believes ever existed. Suddenly "The book said it" was a pretty convincing argument in the ears of the vikings.

    My point is that with effective methods, a theory with no arguments to back it up can be spread as fact, hence religion all over the world. But the Tengu theory is a theory based purely on argument and seemingly hard to come up with. But the fact is that it's not. Has someone read the Da Vinci Code?

    The Da Vinci Code takes Christianity and combines it with historical fiction. The writer has done months of research just to come up with a theory that is hard to break and easy to accept. Dan Brown (the writer of the story) has reminded people that his novel is a fictional work, but despite the author's statements, there arose speculation about whether or not this was the truth. Believers started groups and religions discussed this in their meetings to avoid confusion among it's followers. Saying that the novel was simply theory, didn't avoid the hot debates.

    The Tengu theory is a Da Vinci Code theory. It uses made-up arguments in a way to make the reader accept it as fact. Just a detail on a painting by Da Vinci that didn't have any thought behind it was used to back one idea up, while a hair cut or a symbol in the background of an image in Naruto that didn't have any thought behind it was used to back one idea up. If someone has the time to do the research necessary to find details in history (Da Vinci Code) or a comic (Tengu theory), then anyone with some intelligence and way of argumentation can tweak those details into solid arguments to share his theory to others.

    But what it all comes down to, killing of theory bashers like the Christians did, or making a dot into a universe like Dan Brown did, all the people that claims the theory to be the Great Truth and keeps sharing the methods to convince people about it (or the made-up arguments behind it), it all comes down to stupidity. Some people (and this is psychology, not just me being ignorant) are less educated than others, have less IQ then others, more easy to accept things without proof behind it than others, etc. Those people are embracing those theories like religion, and spreading their Great Truth to the society by any means necessary.

    If the Tengu theory isn't brilliant in theory, at least the writer of it is brilliant for making the community embracing it as a fact and use any means necessary to spread it to the rest of the community.
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    ok.you could have just said its a theory,not a fact.
    not that ppl dont know it,really.

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    elnino19:That all idiots in the english typing Naruto community shouldn't take the Tengu theory for Gods decree.

    And I have to say that this was the most intelligent post I've yet to read in this forum.

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    I don't hate the Tengu theory, I think its the best theory out there. BUT, I agree with you, that there is too many people out there who thinks that the theory is a fact machine.

    If it isn't in the manga, it's just speculations.

    But the creator of the theory did receive help from others. You can see him credit others under certain points and theories..

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    If someone has read the old Uluru theory for the NBC show Heroes, you will know how a theory can be written in the same way as the Tengu theory but even one step further. Claiming that the great rock monster Uluru was the same as the protagonist Peter Petrelli just because they held their arms in a similiar position on a painting was made into a completely solid argument (and almost a fact) on which that theory was based on. Still people loved it, they shared it to the community, and they cherished it as if it were a fact.

    If someone writes something with 30 words and I try to explain the same thing with 50, that makes people automatically notice my explanation as the superior one. Despite its facts, despite its content, just because of detailed descriptions and good use of words. That's the Tengu theory. It's brilliantly written, but when you really look into it, it's nothing more than a theory like any other.

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    I give you a well-meant hint:

    Nobody cares...! -_-


    Its not as you may be wrong, or that the Tengu theory is allmighty..
    Its more like this theory is just a theory, its not reality, and therefore why do you need do ashame yourself in public just to persuade everyone that this theory is wrong?
    Complete nonsense, just a waste of time, and most people will read your post and think "Wtf? Just stfu"...

    Think about it, you are already retarded if you argue over the internet...

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    what is tengu theory ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by neruke View Post
    I give you a well-meant hint:

    Nobody cares...! -_-


    Its not as you may be wrong, or that the Tengu theory is allmighty..
    Its more like this theory is just a theory, its not reality, and therefore why do you need do ashame yourself in public just to persuade everyone that this theory is wrong?
    Complete nonsense, just a waste of time, and most people will read your post and think "Wtf? Just stfu"...

    Think about it, you are already retarded if you argue over the internet...
    You obviously haven't read my post, you might be tired because of lack of sleep or you just suffer from severe lack of understanding (a finer word for stupidity). But you don't understand my post. You don't know at all what it's about. I don't say that the Tengu theory is completely bullshit and has no valid points, in my post I even compliment the creator of the theory for a "brilliant" piece of work. What is negative with the word brilliant when not used in sarcastic tone? The point of my post is for those who quote that theory as truths. Do you do it, and this excuse of a reply is your defense of having the right to do so? It seems like it's me who doesn't understand your intentions now because your reply just doesn't make sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rosalie View Post
    what is tengu theory ??
    A fan fiction.


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    And the dragon is right on the point here. I noticed that Tengu theory biggest strenght is also it's biggest weakness.

    Let's look at it, it's very, and I really mean thet, detailed. Ok, author gave reasons for his assumptions but wait a moment, can someone rally predict the plot of the manga with such details? Only Kubo I say. So while Tengu Theory is interesting scenario it's rather impossible for it to be accurate.
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