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    xaturas is offline Senior Member Always Around
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    Unless kb do naruto tactics and make a decoy and then atack from the blind spot. Still if it would be possible to throw rasenshuriken then kb would be more than enough to use it.

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    Or if you get like 10 kb doing rasenshuriken with the others distracting, then one of them is bound to hit...

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    It would then proberbly be overkill. Imagine Itachi and Kakashi having no limit to MS. I mean, every enemy Naruto fights would end up with no working cells. I think the limitation is for the sake of the story. If Naruto could just use his bunshins to do RS, with his massive chakara supply, not many of his opponents would walk away (or ever walk again).
    Last edited by kaz; 08-10-2007 at 08:12 AM.

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    thats not true
    everything is based on chakra (even using sharingan or other bloodline abilities)
    so creating a clone doesn't give you limitless power.. it's quite the opposite
    splitting their chakra in two (by creating a bunshin) makes all their jutsus half as much efficient
    lets say itachis MS drains about 30% of his chakra, right?
    so making a kagebunshin he would split his chakra in two, each having only 50% of his total chakra
    now he's about to use MS, ok? he still NEEDS 30% of his FULL STAMINA (chakra)
    not 30% of whats left
    i don't see anything close to your overkill-thingie...
    but there's a reason its half as much efficient! having a bunshin perform a huge jutsu is dagerous, a bunshin is quite easy to kill (at least narutos are..)
    so back to our itachi.. itachi-bunshin is trying to MS ... sakura, but all of sudden sasuke appears and attacks the itachi-bunshin, who is like 1hit k.o.
    whats the point in having bunshins perform such great jutsus when like 30% of your chakra are at stake
    THATs why using bunshins is a HUGE chakraloss for most of the characters in naruto and definately NOT called overkill

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    HUH? Did you actually read what i said? I'm saying its overkill if Naruto launches 10 bunshins with 10 RSs at his opponents. I just mentioned his huge chakara supply because it would proberbly be possible for him if his bunshins could do the jutsu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaz View Post
    HUH? Did you actually read what i said? I'm saying its overkill if Naruto launches 10 bunshins with 10 RSs at his opponents. I just mentioned his huge chakara supply because it would proberbly be possible for him if his bunshins could do the jutsu.
    the only problem i see with this is, he used raseshuriken 3 times in his fight with kakuzu, and he pretty much collapsed right after the third one right? If he was to do more then that all at the same time, he'd probably just be a defensless lump on the ground afterwards...

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    True, but he just came from training during that fight. Who knows how much chakara he used during training. But i dont see the 10 RS thing happening, I'm just stating that it would be overkill if it did.

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    Naruto attacks are way too straight forward.. out of 10 rasen shurikens only one would actually hit a high level ninja.

    He had to make one to create a distraction so he could hit another..

    Second.. on impact that think create a huge explosion, so any second incomming bushin would be caught and *poof*

    If the bushin waits for the explosion to hit.. there would be nothing left..
    Its not over kill its just not possible

    Its like trying to throw 10 atomics bombs on the same place..

    1st destroy everything.. the next 9 will do little to nothing, if they even go off.
    "Chile is a thin and tall country"

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    But just like 1 atomic bomb, 1 rasen shuriken IS overkill. -_^
    In the end, for the sake of the story, there is no way Kishi is going to make Naruto able to do multiple RSs with no limitations.(IMO)

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    Quote Originally Posted by gummyworms View Post
    can clones create more clones, my answer is no simply because Pain's technique of making another guy into him is more of an advanced form of shadow clones, and only something like that can use the techniques of the original. If the normal clones can use the techniques of the original, then that reduces the uniqueness of Pein's technique.
    Actually you are mistaken, clones can create clones, and the chakra is divided up again once the new clone is made.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sion4ever View Post
    yea this one is really hard to answer..
    the best (and only good) answer would be the pain or damage thing
    the bunshins can't handle it because it needs to be pushed forcefully against the opponent damaging the own body - a bunshin would just disappear and its jutsu would lose it's power

    the answer i always feared was "the damage the bunshin takes will be transferred to naruto" or sth like that - but there are a lot of counter-arguments to that one
    Actually it isn't that hard, the pain is not transfered back to the caster, or else when he was fighting Neji his chakra holes would have already been closed. When clones get stabbed the caster doesn't feel that either, the writers were just not being smart when they had Naruto do it and not his clone. Another case of intelligence not being used by Naruto, there are so many instances of that being the case.

 

 
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