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    Raszagal is offline Senior Member Community Builder
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    start datin again? ^^

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    with multiple partners *rawr*
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    Quote Originally Posted by AtrumIncendia View Post
    Thats exactly what I'm saying!

    Besides he wants to avenge his clan, yeah we know that. But he wants to resurrect it? Hmm, I wonder how he would do that?
    He doesn't care at all about resurrecting his clan. He mentioned it once throughout the entire manga and it was in one of his very first appearances. It has never been a driving force for him in the slightest. Besides Sasuke threw this out along with Konoha and everything else in order to seek revenge. He gave up everything for revenge. Stop bringing this up like Sasuke actually cares about it because he doesn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AtrumIncendia View Post
    Yeah why doesn't Kishi just change the name to Sasuke!

    It revolves around him now instead of Naruto for like the past 20 chapters.
    That's because its a Sasuke arc. Its purpose is to show what Sasuke is up to. I know its complicated to grasp for some people who still yell "So call it "Sasuke!"", but bear with it. Sasuke is one of the main characters in case you hadn't noticed.
    The Gaara arc was very Sakura based, they didnt change the name. You're only saying that cause you dislike Sasuke.

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    ^ Well, no, it's not that comparable.

    With the Gaara arc, it was just meant to show how much Sakura had grown. Here, it's setting up Sasuke as Naruto's adversary. However, the main problem I have goes beyond who the story revolves around.

    When we first saw Sasuke in Part 2, he was holding his own against Neo Team 7 singlehandedly, AND revealed the ability to suppress the Kyuubi's chakra. Then, he wrested control from Orochimaru and gained many of his powers (free use of Level 2, summoning, healing factor, etc). On the other end, Naruto's only win against an Akatsuki was grossly unconvincing, and the one move he had that could take one down is too dangerous to use. So he's going to have to spam the Hyberbolic Ti--er, the Kage Bushin hack just to catch up, which is more of the same quick-fix leveling crap you see in every shonen series.

    So, of the 2, Sasuke has shown much more progress. Not only that, but the results of said progress have been much more satisfying to read on paper, even if it's been over-the-top to the point of camp. Couple that with how boring and repetetive the rest of Part 2 has been, and it's no surprise that people want the title changed--the manga only became interesting again after Sasuke came back.

    For the record, I like Sasuke way more than Naruto. But I still think Kishi's inability to write around Naruto consistently is bullshit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gigantor21 View Post
    ^ Well, no, it's not that comparable.

    With the Gaara arc, it was just meant to show how much Sakura had grown. Here, it's setting up Sasuke as Naruto's adversary. However, the main problem I have goes beyond who the story revolves around.

    When we first saw Sasuke in Part 2, he was holding his own against Neo Team 7 singlehandedly, AND revealed the ability to suppress the Kyuubi's chakra. Then, he wrested control from Orochimaru and gained many of his powers (free use of Level 2, summoning, healing factor, etc). On the other end, Naruto's only win against an Akatsuki was grossly unconvincing, and the one move he had that could take one down is too dangerous to use. So he's going to have to spam the Hyberbolic Ti--er, the Kage Bushin hack just to catch up, which is more of the same quick-fix leveling crap you see in every shonen series.

    So, of the 2, Sasuke has shown much more progress. Not only that, but the results of said progress have been much more satisfying to read on paper, even if it's been over-the-top to the point of camp. Couple that with how boring and repetetive the rest of Part 2 has been, and it's no surprise that people want the title changed--the manga only became interesting again after Sasuke came back.

    For the record, I like Sasuke way more than Naruto. But I still think Kishi's inability to write around Naruto consistently is bullshit.
    Obviously Sasuke improved the most. He knows so many jutsus, he's faster, stronger, has a better sharingan. Naruto didn't learn anything new, except for those 2 special rasengans. He needs more jutsus.

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    yea, but that's why I start to wonder what the hell he did in those two years with jiraiya.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fiks_me_manga View Post
    yea, but that's why I start to wonder what the hell he did in those two years with jiraiya.
    He worked on taijutsu. But barely on ninjutsu and genjutsu.

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    Also "that" jutsu.

    Unless we've seen it and its the super lame rasengan.

    The point of Sasuke being stronger is the struggle that Naruto has against a super-genius like him. If Naruto was stronger than Sasuke then there'd be no struggle and no reason for Naruto to keep on straining and striving to find him.

    I don't think that focusing the storyline on Naruto the whole time is a good thing. It's a good idea to show what Sasuke can do because it shows us what he's up against. Plus Sasuke is a main character. Sasuke was lacking loads from Part 2, obviously. It's weird for a main character to go into recession for so long.

    Plus I love this arc cause Sasuke rules.

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    Yeah..If Narutos new Ûber jutsu is a advanced Rasengan Kishi has run out of ideas to new jutsus, which is a bad sign -_-

 

 
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