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    Arcane Azmadi is offline Senior Member Well Known
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    Default Something that's been bugging me...

    This is an OLD matter- it's been bugging me for the past 261 chapters, but I've never got around to asking about it before (well not really, it was actually since the END of that plot arc, but whatever).

    In chapter 103 (near the end of Naruto's duel with Neji) Kabuto treated Hinata when she started coughing up blood again. After stabilizing her, he made sure she would remain unconscious and subsequently knocked out Kiba.

    WHY?

    This was one of the most important moments in the series for Hinata- Naruto had promised her -he'd sworn on her blood- that he'd defeat Neji both to avenge her and to vindicate her decision to fight her destiny. Then suddenly, just before Naruto turns the apparently hopeless battle around and produces one of his most stunning victories, she collapses and misses the whole thing. This is plain stupid if you ask me.

    So my theory is that this was the groundwork for a plot development that Kishimoto abandoned. I believe that Kabuto's actions were a precursor to him kidnapping Hinata (either for Orochimaru or himself) in an attempt to gain the power of the Byakugan. As Neji was actually right in the middle of explaining during the scene, Hinata had been kidnapped once before for this very reason. It makes sense- there's no other reason Kabuto would have knocked out Kiba, since he would have been expecting him to be knocked out anyway by the mass-hypnosis genjutsu when the attack began. Kabuto's intended plan was most likely that after knocking out Kiba, he would steal Hinata away and return in time to take part in the attack. It was mostly likely opportunism on his part rather than a prepared plan -taking advantage of the fact that he had an excuse to remove Hinata from the crowd (to treat her)- all he had to do was disable Kiba and he could make a clean getaway.

    This was probably a precursor to one of two possible plot developments. Either Hiashi (Hinata's father) would discover her being kidnapped and show his true feelings for his "useless" daughter by rescuing her, or she would actually be kidnapped, leading to a rescue plot arc, probably involving Naruto. Most likely Kishimoto gave up on the idea altogether, which is why he left Kabuto's actions after knocking out Kiba ambiguous- so he'd have the freedom to choose later on. He abandoned the first idea because he didn't want to write in ANOTHER serious story to the arc when he was already juggling the 3rd vs Orochimaru and Sasuke/Naruto vs Gaara (as well as Shino vs Kankuro and the 2 battling ninja armies), reducing Hiashi's part in the battle to just a cameo. Also, he'd given Hiashi a lot of character already when he came to apologize to Neji after his loss, so probably felt it was extraneous. The second possibility was abandoned as being difficult to work with (it would have meant hunting Orochimaru to his lair no less) as well as disrupting the story of the 3rd Hokage's funeral, carrying on the whole chuunin exam arc just a BIT too long (it was already the longest single arc in the entire story, a position it still retains) and develping Naruto and Hinata's relationship far too soon.

    When Naruto, Hinata and Yamato were confronted by Kabuto in 356-357, I thought that maybe Kabuto had planted some kind of sleeper effect in Hinata's body when he treated her, which he was going to turn against them now (possibly to hold her hostage against Naruto), but he left without doing anything (or even giving Hinata a glance) leading me to discard this theory. So what do you guys think?

    (Incidentally, did anyone notice that in 356 when Kabuto referred to Naruto as the kyuubi right in front of Hinata there was no reaction from her at all? Although Sakura appeared to already know about Naruto when he told her in 252, I doubt it had become common knowledge and Hinata was one of very few characters who had NEVER seen Naruto's kyuubi power due to missing his duel with Neji. Odd, very odd.)
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    I'd always assumed that because of her heritage that the reason he helped Hinata was her coughing up blood, a rather serious issue, would have attracted more attention and possibly ninja to the stadium. Which would have been problematic for him as it was his job to genjutsu the crowd into sleep.

    He knocked out Kiba to keep the senseless noise down that would have occurred.

    I also assume Hinata might not know what infact the Kyubii is.

    In the chapter where Naruto tells Sakura the "Kyubii" is mentioned a couple of time before he explains he has one sealed inside himself and she doesn't figure it out before hand.

    There *is* a law that says no one can mention it after all.

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    Kabuto has always been pretty strange.

    But I agree that there must have been some other direction the story was going in that Kishimoto decided to change.

    Kabuto almost killed Sasuke back then because...apparently he wanted to be the one that was closest to Orochimaru...yeah. At least that's the only viable explanation for why he chose to become Kabutomaru. There's just so many things with his character that could have been done so much better (and apparently was going to develop in a different direction) that just never came to be. Now we'll just have to wait and see whether he dies before or after Naruto deals with Akatsuki.

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    Plus it wasn't the time for her to speak up, she is shy by nature. And she was a subordinade..
    Kishimoto wouldn't stop their conversation to state the obvious (to us) to Hinata.
    There is also to consider that you can say that Naruto is a green 8-tentacled alien from mars, Hianata would like him anyway =p

    Orochimaru went for naruto kill, because he could fall into akatsuki's hand.
    But later left him live because IF he could take one akatsuki would further his plans?

    So thats the biggest change of heart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by irecinius View Post
    Orochimaru went for naruto kill, because he could fall into akatsuki's hand.
    But later left him live because IF he could take one akatsuki would further his plans?

    So thats the biggest change of heart.
    I don't think anything really changed there, he never actively tried to do anything to Naruto, he just left him alone for the most part.

    It's just that they ran into each other a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irecinius View Post
    Plus it wasn't the time for her to speak up, she is shy by nature. And she was a subordinade..
    Kishimoto wouldn't stop their conversation to state the obvious (to us) to Hinata.
    It's not that, but just a single panel of Hinata looking startled -or at least a bit confused- wouldn't have gone amiss.

    It was only an observation anyway, not a question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adonai View Post
    I don't think anything really changed there, he never actively tried to do anything to Naruto, he just left him alone for the most part.

    It's just that they ran into each other a lot.
    He did, when Orochimaru/ Jiraya /Tsunade fought, right after Naruto used rasengan on Kabuto

    He said: I never thought that kid had such potential. If akatsuki gets their hands on him it will be trouble.
    I must kill him..

    Orochimaru jumped in with the Kusanagi to kill him, but Tsunade got in the way.

    After that he really had no choice as Tsunade started fightning back.

    Thats why I think its strange for Orochimaru later say: If they can take out ONE akatsuki it will further our plans.

    There were other 8, that could potentialy get ahold of Naruto, would it not be trouble for him?
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    And the fact that Naruto has the potential to surpass Orochimaru. Killing Naruto would have the smartest thing to do from the beginning, but killing the main character would result in no series.
    etufo: HS is most likely going to die sooner or later. Who will kill the cool character killer?

    Popo: well, obviously going by that logic, HS will have to kill himself...

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    he knocked out kiba because akamaru recognized kabuto by smell.
    and hinata might have been told by her father.she is the heir to the clan,and i think when you advance in rank to chuunin,you're given a higher security clearance,and access to certain classified files.explains how mizuki and iruka know.
    Last edited by elnino19; 07-28-2007 at 11:20 PM.

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    ^ Or maybe it's because they actually lived through it...

 

 
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