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    Kung_Zain is offline Member Frequent Poster
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    Default So anyways, Kishimoto and his crack addiction[spoilers]

    i just read the last couple of threads and i realized that there is a definite possiblity that Kishimoto is smoking crack,

    this thread's purpose is to cover a couple of things that have arisen

    first off, the main point of the manga from the beginning was to cover a ninja's life and the possibility that he might become a hokage, i mean in all fairness, it seems like it had definite possiblities from the summary alone as far as shonen manga go, but then Kishimoto got a little lost along the way,

    by that i mean, he became a little too engrossed with the sasuke arc, i mean, when i read the orochimaru was killed by sasuke, i was like alright kishimoto can recover the manga, he can use this to deviate slightly and then reconnect it after a good amount of chapters, he could have two different stories that eventuially reallign, (like somethign like sasuke and his way of getting his brother, and have naruto train more because he recognizes the jinchuriki thing in teh Akatsuki and focuses there)
    but he focuses on sasuke again and leaves us where we are now in this period in which the main character could be a lot stronger and is barely even relevant to the plotline,
    this leads me to a few things, one do you think that Kishi has dug himself a hole from his crack related move meaning the series is doomed to end after a long drawn out series of sasuke, akatsuki, itachi, naruto clash or do you think that he could pull it off, and, through either more crack related moves or a smart move for once, change it so that the series goes on past what could be the last arc and still maintain its fandom level,

    speaking of moves, something that noone seems to have brought up is the possiblitiy that tobi could be the 4th i mean they have similar personalities in that they are both happier lighter people and the fact that the rumors about tobi getting away from teh explosion could mean that he was using a technique that smilar to the 4th's jutsu, along with the fact that the fourth's whole team dissolved after obito died could mean this a tribute, and they have the same sillouete almost, and the fact that he always has the mask on could be hinting that, but i realize that this idea will be spammed at least 4 times, prolly 40 times but still, but if Tobi doesn't live, then i think kishimoto made by far the stupidest move ever in teh whole series by putting in a character that shows up all the time and serves no purpose ever,

    i just realized that the tobi=4th theory is pretty dumb,
    but still, considering that tobi most likely still has a possiblity of being alive, does anyone think that tobi could become a really important bad guy?

    (note: i realize that i was kinda ADD witht eh whole three topics, but they are all relevent to Kishimoto's insanity with the series. Don't get me wrong, i'm still a bit of a fan in order to find out how he tries to end the series)
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    ^ ahh can you make it a summary?!

    im lazy reading a novel like thread

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    lolz the tobi = 4th thins is the stupidest idea i ever heard i mean seriously...why on earth would the 4th Hokage follow orders from akatsuki?

    and he sacrificed himself for his village it makes no sense for such a stand up guy to suddenly become evil for no reason.


    however what the heck is it with all you naruto fans getting so mad over kishimoto's sasuke arc?? Let's review this shit....

    ALMOST ALL SHONEN MANGA/ANIME have a "rivalry" and they ALL usually dwelve not only into the main character but also his rival, because developing the rival is SUPER important. You would know this if u ever wrote a story.

    Honestly who would give a damn about deidara if Kishimoto hadnt done what he did with Deidara in his fight vs. Sasuke? In order to have a GOOD badguy you need to give him some sort of backstory.

    Naruto is the main character true. But Sasuke is the main supporting actor, in every story the main support also needs to be given a lot of airtime.

    Since Shippudden started there was a DROUGHT of Sasuke, the whole thing with Gaara happened and for many episodes Sasuke didnt make an appearance just like in the anime currenctly, other than in the beginning when was the last time you saw Sasuke himself show up? And we are already upt o episode 20 of the anime.

    So it's only right to concentrate on him and its not like it's been ALL Sasuke, he also showed how the other supporting cast developed, currently showing Shino's team's progress.

    I mean come on do you guys honestly enjoy BLAND n BORING anime that is ridiculously one-sided like Bleach? I think we can ALL agree that Bleach needs to grab a parachute and jump off Ichigo's you-kno-what already and let the other characters shine as well. I like bleach but i find it incredibly stale in terms of character development for anyone who's name isnt Ichigo.

    If you guys want to enjoy a GOOD thought out story then continue to watch Naruto, even though it's true that there's maybe not enough focus on the other characters besides the very main ones, but it's still done really well.

    If you like BLAND and BORING, go watch Bleach. You'll get so much Ichigo that u'll start to wonder why did they even bother coming up with all those cool character designs that never really do anything.

    but if you want a story that involves EVERYone and gives importance to all then go watch ONE PIECE it's still the best adventure anime currently out. All characters are likeable and have their own story arcs

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    After reading your post it seems that you and Kishimoto have the same crack dealer. This Sasuke Arc has not been that long. And the story is about Naruto and the reason that they are "focusing" on Sasuke is because Sasuke was his best friend (will probably be again). He has had a knack for bringing out the best in other people and it will be a good story if he is able to bring Sasuke back to Konoha. After all, how can he become Hokage if he can't save one person who just happened to have been his best friend.

    @Akaiyou - I agree with your points as far as Naruto goes, but please, drop the Bleach bashing. It's kind of weak. Your points hold no substance. One Piece is all about Luffy. They just give you background on the other characters. Same as Bleach. Only in Bleach there is actually character development. Not bashing One Piece by the way. I actually love it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tousen View Post
    After reading your post it seems that you and Kishimoto have the same crack dealer. This Sasuke Arc has not been that long. And the story is about Naruto and the reason that they are "focusing" on Sasuke is because Sasuke was his best friend (will probably be again). He has had a knack for bringing out the best in other people and it will be a good story if he is able to bring Sasuke back to Konoha. After all, how can he become Hokage if he can't save one person who just happened to have been his best friend.

    @Akaiyou - I agree with your points as far as Naruto goes, but please, drop the Bleach bashing. It's kind of weak. Your points hold no substance. One Piece is all about Luffy. They just give you background on the other characters. Same as Bleach. Only in Bleach there is actually character development. Not bashing One Piece by the way. I actually love it.
    first off Bleach is all about Ichigo, name any other 2 characters in bleach that have an indepth backstory. I like bleach but bro this is a reality Bleach is bland.

    One Piece is not just about Luffy you must be watchin a different show.
    every big support character actually has a full length backstory. Hell they got their own "arcs". Luffy hasnt really gotten a whole arc he had a couple flashbacks if anything its more about the support cast than the main character in one piece.

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    Akaiyou, you are suffering from anime syndrome. We have spent time on the history of Tousen, The history between Rukia and Kaien twice, Grimmjaw's background, part of Zaraki's, Renji's, Hitsugaya's and Hinamori, Sado's, and some more of Rukia and Renji's life, Ishida and the Quincy, and even a bit of Kommamura.

    But on topic, the whole craziness of this thread gets me, some of this stuff has been gone on over and over on other threads.
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    The craziness annoys me too. The terrible english usage and the length, randomness, and redundancy of this thread is annoying. And I only skimmed it too.

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    If anything, I think Sasuke might end up being the ultimate villian of the series. He killed off Orochimaru, plans to kill Itachi, which seems to be soon at this point in the manga, and I don't think he plans on going back to Konoha. Reason being with his clan. Sasuke seems awfully arrogant about his bloodline and probably won't like the idea of being an 'underling' for anyone, specifically his clan.

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    First of all Bleach is all about Ichigo (I mean can you name a meaningful character that anyone has beaten aside from Ichigo, or in ONE case Ishida).

    But back to Naruto; I never thought that the point of Naruto was about Naruto becoming Hokage, but rather about Naruto achieving his dream. To me his dream is about being recognized and making friends, not being hokage. He states very early on that if he's hokage then people will have to recognize him. He has since gone on to make many friends and to become recognized by all of the shinobi village.

    Sasuke is the most high profile ninja that Naruto wants to be recognized by and the most important in terms of age and prestige. Therefore, it is normal that he be emphasized in recent chapters.

 

 
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