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    Buiji is offline Junior Member Newbie
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    Default Akatsuki not as great as they were made out to be?

    Kinda just venting and ranting about useless shit, read if you'd like, tell me what you think!

    Heres what i mean:

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    Akatsuki. The criminal organization that was shrouded in mystery, consisting of S-ranked criminals, whos goals were unknown. One of the most badass "badguy" groups that is in a manga. These guys came tearing out of the gate with Itachi and Kisame coming into Konoha and proving that they're the shit. I don't think theres much to argue there, they more than held their own, and retreated wisely when presented with too many opponents. I remember back when they first came out and the forums were ablaze with predictions and newly gathered information on these guys. The hype was absolute gnarlicide. yes, gnarlicide.

    Itachi has his reputation, and he never fails to keep up to our expectations. his sharingan is top-notch with the MS as a failsafe with crazy abilities. the best part about itachi, is how his movements and attacks are shown to be performed effortlessley, which works great with how the akatsuki are presented as top-notch ninjas from their villages, and that you can't quite grasp how powerful a member truly is.

    Kisame, even though he is paried with itachi, still shows that he is very powerful. we know that he has a HUGE chakra reserve, as neji says he has more than naruto @ only 30%. his sword eats chakra and tears the flesh like a friggin chainsaw, and we know he is one of the mist 7. kisame is shown to use high level water jutsu, a personal favorite move that i saw, was how he handled a 4v1 situation. made his clones, and when neji tenten and lee attacked them, they turned to water, which he promplty made into water prisons; in order to focus himself on the biggest threat: gai. that alone shows his abilites, and with all that odne at 30%, we dont know what else he has in store for us.

    Then comes along Diedra and Sasori. (id look up the spellingo n diedra...but you know who im talkin bout) Diedra uses his clay and makes flying creatures, making him awesome, as his fighting style is impossible for most nins to even fight against. Flying in the air, shooting bombs at someone, bombs that are guided. I think we can all agree that this fightning style can easily beat most ninja out there, with exceptions, of course. If you dont agree, then look back on that bomb he drops on the sand village. pretty intense shit. while his genjutsu or taijutsu may or may not be great, his style easily makes up for that.

    3/3 on akatsuki members. now the first problem i have.

    Sasori. this guy had RIDICULOUS powers. i mean top-notch i WILL pwn you and you cant do shit about it power. and yet he somehow loses to who? Sakura and the old woman. how? this fight was the most ridiculous and horrible thing ive ever seen. first off, hes got his main armor shell thing. and hes doing his pewpew and whatnot, with the grandma and sakura fighting him. as we know, sakura has somehow "attained' super-strength from tsunade, and she uses that to crush his armor suit. were talking a big ole puppet tank suit thingie. his next move, he busts out the former kazekage. and this puppet is NO pushover. he uses the black sand move, to shoot "needles" of this black sand at the two of them. they will die for certain. nope, grandma busts out a trump card, in the form of his parents, using their shields to defend herself and sakura, (which in turn offered insight into sasori's messed up self, turnin his parents into puppets and all...)chiyo then states that the joints in the puppets are ruined, and that she cannot take another attack. now, the reason the sand things worked so well, is that they were simply faster than the two girls, and were not something that would be punched and broken like his previous suit. sasoris next idea....the big-black-geometric-shapes-of-doom. yes, he makes big shapes, and intends to crush them. instead of just shooting them again. so he does. and sakura promptly punches said shapes and breaks them. ok...not a smart move, but it looks like sasori has more tricks up his sleeve. he then uses the kazekage to do that crazy lookin mess of black sand all over the place. sakura is apparently dead, or at least paralyzed by the poison or something.

    alright sasori you wanna know if shes dead for sure or not, you can
    A:throw a shuriken at her head.
    B: send the puppet up to her to get punched by her "superhuman strength" punch so that you lose the best puppet youve ever made and will ever have to a little pink haired girl.

    ...

    anyways...

    so he loses his toy, and reveals his body (sounds...wrong) and the fight continues. we all know what happens, and the point of the sasori rant is: Hes a fuckin idiot who was invlolved in a fight that was NOT well thought out, and was intended to show Sakuras growth as a ninja. problem is....it didnt. i would have preferred him getting killed by konohamaru with a stick than losing simply because he makes horrible choices that happen to work out for the opposition.

    Zetsu. not much to say here, badass as far as we can tell.

    Tobi. My new favorite, all the mystery of zetsu, minus the seriousness. comedic relief for the akatsuki.

    now for the new guys.

    Hidan. IMMORTAL. we dont even know how. but he just is. and hes cocky because of it. (i cant blame him for that) we first see him with kakuzu and in all honesty i was SUPER excited for this. so far, were 5/6 on akatsuki members, and kishi showed off 2 more. and all we know is that they are badasses. took on 2 tails easily, and that monk guy. when it comes to fighting, they just TRASH asumas team, and only let them live because they had to go to the sealing of the bijuus. (sp?) in their second fight, shikamaru has things going as planned, until kakuzu takes the tag off the shadow. then you think things are gonna be getting worse when BAM. kakashi blows that guys heart out with a chidori. (<3 kakashi.) kakashi moves in to kill hidan, and kakuzu is alive. we know now that he has the ability to use all elements to their fullest potential, and have more than one heart. so essentially...2 immortal opponents. when working together they manage to overwhelm kakashi and co. and are ready to basically finish them off. until reinforcements arrive...and they die.


    My point here is, we get 2 new characters. and they represent. but then kishi kills them off, almost asap. we got no growth or distance out of them being in the manga...they just showed up, and died. I mean, yes they were strong, yes they were cocky. but a ninja whos fought and killed a hokage from the past, and has control over all the elements...gets tricked and beaten by NARUTO? you would think he'd be a bit smarter than that, and know when to retreat. i mean, hidans character, whatever; hes a hot headed thoughtless kinda person. but kakuzu? that character i would have expected to know when to retreat, ya know, when the fight turned into an 7v1 fight, but instead he just takes naruto on, and gets fooled by the most simple thing.

    It just seems like the akatsuki were made out to be something that they are not, and i just wish that they could have been more than they've proven to be. With great power comes great....stupidity?
    cmon, just cuz its a shounen, doesnt mean you should get away with deus ex machina-esque stupidity found in the villains.

    maybe i just wish naruto wasnt a shonen, and was instead a step up (cant remember what thats called) like gantz, or berserk...k maybe not that far, but you know what i mean. then maybe we dont need the message of the good guys (kids?) always prevailing and whatnot...iono


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    leokash is offline Member Newbie
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    seriously? what are you on about? this just looks like a sum up 2 me. and check ur facts b4 writing!!! kakuzu didnt kill the first hokage, just to cite 1 fact!
    For those who believe: no explaination is neccessary.

    For those who dont: none will suffice

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    I would say wow nice rant, if you didn't get so much mixed up, two major things to point out Neji said he hasn't seen chakra this large since Naruto not that Kisame had more, and secondly Kakuzu didn't kill any Hokage, he said he fought him (likely ran away, was just to establish his age) and that picture that was shown after he stated that was of a earth ninja...

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    i think akatsuki wasnt that great from the beginning, becasue they are just 9(+1) member of powerfull ninjas. only 9, thats not much. even if everyone of themvis powerfull they cannot compare to hole villages. thats why they need power, the power of the 1-9tails to fullfill their goal (either its realy domination over the world or something else).

    if they loose one of their members they loose 1/9 of their power, so they are pretty unstable and risk much.

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    Never thought they were super powerful or anything of the sort.

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    I think that the rest of Akatsuki(minus maybe the leader) were made just as attachements to Itachi(since I bet Kishi thought only one villain after Oro would be s bit too few of bad guys in his manga, generally speaking....).

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    I think in the case of Sasori, it was just that it was the worst possible match-up. Sakura or Chiyo on their own, he could take easily, but not the two of them together (combined with a few bad decisions on his part). I'll admit that I haven't read the Hidan and Kakuzu arc yet, so I won't comment on that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ferozban View Post
    i think akatsuki wasnt that great from the beginning, becasue they are just 9(+1) member of powerfull ninjas. only 9, thats not much.
    What? This is just plain wrong. Where the heck did Tobi come from, then? Or Yuura? They have the nine that are the "top guys," but they definitely have subordinates.


    I remember how shocking it was when Zabuza turned out to not be dead. I'm kind of rooting for a similar occurance at some point.

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    Ferozban is offline Senior Member Always Around
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    maybe they have subordinates like oro, that's unclear


    anyway:

    http://www.myvideo.de/watch/951896

    this is akatsukis real goal

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    Score is 3 for the good guys (Sasori, Hidan and kakuzu)
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    1 for the bad guys (Asuma)

    I hope that more Good Guys is going to die a horrible, non-flashbackable death

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferozban View Post
    maybe they have subordinates like oro, that's unclear


    anyway:

    http://www.myvideo.de/watch/951896

    this is akatsukis real goal
    lol that's hilarious.

    i didn't think the sasori fight was *that* bad. chiyo was sasori's old teacher anyway. but yah, sasori did make some mistakes, the one that annoyed me most was instead of using spiky sand again, he made huge shapes which played right into sakura's strength. way too staged by kishi.

    let's just hope the mysterious akatsuki we haven't seen yet will be badass.

 

 
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