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    he will become sorta like an itachi clone, emotionless most of the time but still holding a bit of smiles here and there. Naruto still needs to grow in strength very fast instead of hunting for Itachi and Sasuke since its about time the Akatsuki start hunting him down.

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    1. Blue hair to Naruto: "I am your mother"
    2. AL to Naruto: "I am your brother"
    3. AL and blue hair to Naruto : "Join us Akatsuki and conquer the world like a family!"

    now that would be lol
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    kishi has created a million characters,you cant expect him to give every one of them panel time.
    he's doing a good job at rotating and managing them though.
    as for sasuke and his droid like behaviour,its probably the result of the cutting of his 'bonds'.naruto will probably fix that issue.
    thats another volume or two i think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elnino19 View Post
    kishi has created a million characters,you cant expect him to give every one of them panel time.
    he's doing a good job at rotating and managing them though.
    No, he isn't. He's being FAR too businesslike about it- if it isn't a character's "turn", they won't so much as make a cameo appearance in the background any more. Remember back during most of the early arcs, like the Forest of Death? Characters would pop up all the time- Lee and Team 10 showing up to save Team 7 from the Sound team, Team 8 nearly falling foul of Gaara's bloodlust, Anko hunting Orochimaru, Kabuto ingratiating himself with Team 7- he was able to do all this in a single arc. Now characters show up for an arc, do their stuff, and bog off back into obscurity. There's barely any downtime between arcs any more either; Team 8, absent since the start of the post-timeskip story, showed up for a handful of pages at the end of the 'Rescue Gaara' arc and hadn't appeared since until now. Not good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcane Azmadi View Post
    No, he isn't. He's being FAR too businesslike about it- if it isn't a character's "turn", they won't so much as make a cameo appearance in the background any more. Remember back during most of the early arcs, like the Forest of Death? Characters would pop up all the time- Lee and Team 10 showing up to save Team 7 from the Sound team, Team 8 nearly falling foul of Gaara's bloodlust, Anko hunting Orochimaru, Kabuto ingratiating himself with Team 7- he was able to do all this in a single arc. Now characters show up for an arc, do their stuff, and bog off back into obscurity. There's barely any downtime between arcs any more either; Team 8, absent since the start of the post-timeskip story, showed up for a handful of pages at the end of the 'Rescue Gaara' arc and hadn't appeared since until now. Not good.
    You know, I was thinking about your theory again about the AL when I saw a pic of the lower half of his face (with the nose piercings), and apic o him with his super orange hair, and the whoel thing about kishi saying that the dead wont ever come back to life (but of course orochimaru broguht the two dead hokages back to life) But I was looking at the pics and really, no matter how you look at it, they dont have any similarities to the AL, sure he could change his face etc. . .but from the pics and voicings of teh two characters their personality just seems way in incompatible to make any sense.

    That and there are a few possible characters who you have forgotten about


    1)Uchiha Madara: The demon fox in naruto mentioned him, and some people think that he's the guy on the other side of the first hokage in teh valley of the end.

    2) shisui "the mirage" Uchiha. . .He was the guy that Itachi supposedly "killed" in the manga. . .but given that his nickname was "The Mirage" would be maybe a small hint that he faked the death to help itachi get the ms or something then left with Itachi.

    The reason why I'm thinking of this is becuase Itachi is so important to the story, there jsut HAS to be some connection between Itachi and the Leader, which can be drawn to why Itachi had to kill his clan, what sasuke found in the secret place that itachi told him about, and why Itachi would want sasuke to follow him and kill him blah blah blah.


    That and I seriously think kishi already KNOWS that people are thinking that AL=Narutos dad=yondaime, and I think he's been intentionally putting that out there to keep suspense and people reading (since I would not care abotu naruto anymore without this)

    There seems to be a potential for a great storyline twist, but Kishi is holding out on that (Dangerously) for as long as he can Since he probably STILL doesnt know where he wants the story to go, since there are a lot of different directions.

    In other mangs such as One piece, the identity of certain characters isnt the main drawing point of the manga. In One Piece, Oda has already laid out the direction that the manga is going to go to ultimately, which was the name of D. the island Raftel (the island that Gol D Roger left on piece on) THe connection between raftel and the civilazation that the world govnmt destroyed, the fact that gdr (goldroger) can read poneglyphs and the fact that nico was chased for knowing them. blah blah blah. Its already there, out of the way so that we can just enjoy the manga.

    With Kishi he's still unsure about everything, the only things that can legitamley further the plot of Naruto, Reasons for Itachi killing his clan, secret behind the demon spirits, the AL, and 9th member identity half been held back form us for about two years or somethign rediculous like that.

    With all the distractions on yondaime=4th, obito=tobi (which is just so blantely obvious its rediculous which also brings suspicions) it seems like he's still trying to figure out what he wants to do, there are a lot of possibilities on which way the story can go and how he will need to tie up all the lose threads and questions that are popping up all over teh place.

    anyway, My point is, that I dont even think KISHIMOTO has decided who the al is (besides not the 4th) and is still determining what direction he wants the story to go into, and that untill he figures that out, all this speculation is not going to mean a thing because he hasnt even decided it yet.


    Anyway what do you think of that?




    Anyway, I remember making a big post about Kishimoto being a crappy ass story teller that cant pull a resolution to the plot holes situations he's made out of his ass if he shit it out on his twin. And well this was about 6-7months ago. This shit with Kishimoto has just gone on way too long now, It's realyl sad whre a story gets to teh point to where the only reason why you keep reading it it because you want to answer the bajillion questions that the author has made about the plot. I mean seriously There is nothing I realyl care about in this manga anymroe besides the main questions that everone is theorizing about. When there's soo many better stories being told with manga out there, Personally I dont think I'm goign to waste the time reading the steaming pile of shit this story has become.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Luphrecio View Post
    In other mangs such as One piece, the identity of certain characters isnt the main drawing point of the manga. In One Piece, Oda has already laid out the direction that the manga is going to go to ultimately, which was the name of D. the island Raftel (the island that Gol D Roger left on piece on) THe connection between raftel and the civilazation that the world govnmt destroyed, the fact that gdr (goldroger) can read poneglyphs and the fact that nico was chased for knowing them. blah blah blah. Its already there, out of the way so that we can just enjoy the manga.

    With Kishi he's still unsure about everything, the only things that can legitamley further the plot of Naruto, Reasons for Itachi killing his clan, secret behind the demon spirits, the AL, and 9th member identity half been held back form us for about two years or somethign rediculous like that.

    Sorry, but that's wrong. One Piece and Naruto are not that different. In One Piece the goal is to become pirate king. In Naruto it's about becoming Hokage. Everything else is just happening along the way.
    And it's not like the those points you mention are laid out at the beginning of the story. We learned about the relation between raftel and the lost civilation, that roger can read porneglyphs, that robin was chased for it, when the manga was runinnng for quite some time.
    Which is normal. Those "side questions/answers" are raised and answered in the course of the story and sometimes it takes some time.
    Remember how long it took to find out more about Dragon, since he appeared in the manga? He turned out to be Ruffy's dad, but it still took countless chapters for us to find out.

    And don't forget that there are still many unanswered things going on in One Piece. Eventually they'll get answered, just like the things going on in Naruto.

    It's not that different. The only difference is that Kishi is featuring AL for some time now and doesn't show him. That'd be normal if it was just going on for a few chapters, but not as long as Kishi is doing it.
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    yeah,all that foreshadowing could be bad if the real story behind AL is not good enough.
    and managing chars are extremely difficult.i think the reason that so many ppl are pissed off with kishi is that he set too high standards for himself during the initial arcs of the manga.
    take bleach for example.its been ages since we've heard from any shinigami.(the SS ppl)

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    Quote Originally Posted by elnino19 View Post
    yeah,all that foreshadowing could be bad if the real story behind AL is not good enough.
    and managing chars are extremely difficult.i think the reason that so many ppl are pissed off with kishi is that he set too high standards for himself during the initial arcs of the manga.
    take bleach for example.its been ages since we've heard from any shinigami.(the SS ppl)


    lol@wheres the shinigamis

    I disagree feanor, Of course oda didnt reveal stuff right away and there are questions but MY POINT was One piece isnt about the unanswered questions, I dont read one piece becuase That's the only reason why I actually care about the characters, Oda has actually written in a way that makes you like reading his work and enjoy it without feeling like you read some cheap harlequin novel.


    I'll say it again One Piece's story IS NOT DRIVEN SOLEY by the "secrets and conspiracy, and shadowy villans, that have been in naruto for the past. . oh 2-3 years.

    for example Dragon. . .so yeah people were like wtf is that guy blah blah blah? but the stories and adventures that luffy and his crew went throguh wer ejust so Awesome epi cand just fun to read, didnt make focus on that. Just something in the background, not a something you neeed to know, and besdies it isnt like dragon is really taking a huge part of the story anyway at this point unlike some anime series that features a blond ninja wearing an orange jumpsuit who gets his ass kicked by some emo squinty eyed kid with too much hair gel but yeah I can get that maybe you are engrossed in the story, that maybe all you require to enjoy a manga is 3-4 yeas of a sotry based on the "who is that guy" who is this guy" kinda of thing for 2-3-4-5 years. . .I cant I need something more or else I get bored and write long ass posts liek this or get annoyed at reading the 150th thread about who the AL is. . . I dont know about you but this shit is REALLY getting old, and if you like something like that, then all the power to ya.
    if I want to have a prolonged mystery , I'd just read sherlock homes everyday for 2-3 years, and try to remember to forget that I know how to solve the mistery, or just watch scooby doo's adventures.



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    If you feel that way.
    I myself read One Piece and Naruto the exact same way.
    I know in the end Ruffy is gonna be pirate King and Naruto will be Hokage.
    And I just read the stories and adventures that are happening along the way to this end.

    Maybe you judge the manga too much by the forum. The Naruto section is a bloody mess. Lots of stupid posts and theories.
    The One Piece section is real nice (but a bit quiet though). Nothing of that crap.

    Mabye that's why you think Naruto is all about the unanswered things and mysterious characters. Again, I don't care about all the theories about AL and Tobi. I'll find out when it's time, that's soon enough for me.

    If the One Piece section would have countless theories about the remaining Shichibukai, emperors, their powers etc etc, maybe you'd feel the same way about One Piece.

    I don't know and it's not my business. But I think it's sad that you don't seem to enjoy reading Naruto.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feanor View Post

    Maybe you judge the manga too much by the forum. The Naruto section is a bloody mess. Lots of stupid posts and theories.
    The One Piece section is real nice (but a bit quiet though). Nothing of that crap.

    But I think it's sad that you don't seem to enjoy reading Naruto.

    Heh maybe youre right. Forsome reason I really dont enjoy Naruto anymore, I dont plan on reading the scans after this past chapter. After reading so many othe rmangas that seem a lot better in my opinion I come back to Naruto and im like. . ."wtf" I used to love Naruto, but After expereinceing better works I've failed to keep up my enthusiasm for wanting to watch/read naruto every week

    and ugh. . .I wont even get started on how the Shippuden is pissing me off.

    In the end, I just wish there was more that kishi would bring to the table every week. After each chapter I'm either like "meh" or like "wtf, that's retarded"
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    Maybe you would be best served doing what I did for a little bit, I stopped actually reading the chaps as they came out, and just read the brief summary over on Leaf Ninja. I knew what was going on, but i didn't have to se some of the horrible stuff that was being put in. In fact I'd say it reinvigorated me toward the manga.

    Ans yes Shippuden sucks, but only because we've known what was going to happen for over a full year now.


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