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    MuseyMcMuse is offline Senior Member Frequent Poster
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    ok im writing this thread to find out what ppl's reasons behind believing and disbelieving many of the theories that have come up with in the series Naruto

    to start things off I myself think that Naruto and the Fourth share blood relations somewhere along the line, due to their similar appearances and other things such as Itachi noting that Naruto is the Fourths "legacy."
    also when Jiraiya pushed Naruto off of the cliff, he said, "Forgive me, Fourth,"
    but to be honest who knows with the author being kishi

    another one that buggs many ppl and myself is the whole Fourth being the AL thing...i mean wtf?! Oro tried to bring him back from the DEAD to help fight Sarutobi, he knows abit about Naruto which was proven when speaking to Hidan about how precious the younger generations are to konoha shinobi but apart from that no links at all have been proven to konoha

    lastly for me is obito=tobi, i have to say i would be more surprised if tobi wasn't obito, the kanji is almost the same when written in jap and i mean come on a mask hiding his identity with only 1 hole where tobi's should be...

    well thats it for me id like to hear some other ppl's ideas about these and more theories of theirs or ones that have been circling around the interet

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    "Legacy" just means something a dead guy left behind. Naruto(kyuubi) was created by the 4th's death. By the way, I do think Naruto is related to the 4th.

    The personality change wouldn't make sense. It isn't as if the Akatsuki leader is being controlled by someone higher..

    Now Obito could be controlled. But, I don't really care, Tobi is funny
    No.

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    As for me, I am fairly sure AL is Madara Uchiha since I remember that talk Kyuubi and Sasuke had. It would make sense Al is someone stronger than Kyuubi. I think that Yondaime was weaker than Kyuubi so he had to resort to using sealing technique in order to get rid off him.

    Obito's and Tobi's behaviours are very similar so I also think they are the same, although I wonder how Obito exactly survived and how does he look like now...

    Aha, and I think that Juugo is Sai's brother.

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    Aha, and I think that Juugo is Sai's brother.
    Presumably you meant Suigetsu. I'm rather in favour of that theory, although I'm fairly certain Sai gave an account of his "brother"'s disappearance in Orochimaru's lair - that probably wouldn't deter Kishi from playing that notion at some point.

    Ditto Tobi=Obito. Mere physical inconveniences such as being crushed by a large rockslide have little bearing on recurring manga characters. Not that I'd be unhappy to see this theory confirmed: the ineffectual Uchiha Obito turning out as an Akatsuki member? Yes, please. Better still would be if at some point he "gets serious" - ie reveals himself as being rather stronger than he has seemed thus far.

    And while I'm more than willing to believe there in the ties between Yondaime Hokage and Naruto, Yondaime =/= AL. Not only has he been shown time and time again to be blatantly dead, Kages show high levels of devotion to their villages (cf Sandaime, Gaara); to show a Kage having defected would shake our faith in the title and would just not be cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taishi Ci View Post
    Aha, and I think that Juugo is Sai's brother.
    Right, and I think your an idiot.

    Suigetsu is most likely Sais brother, and Juugo is just a random mofo.

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    i my self think that Suigetsu's blood brother is Sai's 'brother', tho he may have changed his teeth from normal to i suppose shark like

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    Neruke, if you make such impolite comments, then don't make them at all.

    As for Sai's brother, I think that we just have to wait what colour his hair are in anime. Juugo's are red AFAIK.

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    just cause naruto and the fourth have the same hair and eyes doesn't mean they have to be related.
    besides if they are related,i think the village would have treated naruto with more respect than they used to.
    i dont wanna talk about AL=4th
    and there is no proof that obito is tobi.tobi is comical,obito was never funny,he was a naruto.and then there is also the fact that he respects itachi,obito wouldnt do that,if he knew what itachi did.it is possible that sasri brought him back as a puppet that moves on its own or something,but its a far fetched theory.
    suigetsu being sai's brother also isnt very likely,as suigetsu is implied to have been with the mist swordsmen for quite some time(as quoted by kisame in 353 or 354).

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    As for Naruto and Yondaime, I think it's more like this.....

    Naruto - Jiraya
    Sasuke - Orochimaru
    Sakura - Tsunade

    In fact, I find very few similarities between 4th Hokage and Naruto, other than hair.

    Suigetsu as Sai's brother seems plausible to me too, and in fact more than Juugo. Still, Juugo is IMO a big mystery, and I wonder how his ability(innate?) - cursed seal - relates to the rest of storyline and characters.

    Also, here's excerpt from Wikipedia concerning Madara whom I believe to be AL:

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    Not much is known about this Uchiha member. He seems to be well known by the Nine-Tailed Demon Fox, who said that Madara's chakra was even more sinister than its own at the time and that Sasuke now holds the same chakra. "Madara" means "mottles" or "speckles".
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    Okay Musey you want theories and reactions I'll give you reactions.

    1. Yondiame related to Naruto
    My thoughts
    - While the possibility still exists that the two are father and son, or that they are brothers, both theories are pervasive and could equally true. Now as to others belief in the possibility that he is somewhere locked in Naruto with Kyuubi and Naruto just doesn't know it and this causes his similar appearance. I think it could be true given how Kish likes to write. And since the seal is breaking down, having Yondiame suddenly appear inside his mind and either reset the seal or change how the chakra from Kyuubi works in Naruto could happen.

    2. Yondiame is alive and is the AL
    My thoughts
    - Okay first off, the eyes are wrong. Second, Yondiame has been shown to be fairly tall, tall enough to stand out in a crowd, and the Al is a short guy, a bit Napoleon-esque. In fact if you look at all the pictures of him and the rest of Akatsuki, He is the single shortest one. And unless he is a kid, thus making him not Yondiame or Madara, he is too short to be Konoha's yellow flash.

    3. @Taishi Ci Uchiha Madara is the yet unrevealed AL
    My Thoughts
    - That is what I like to call a physical impossibility. First the AL lacks even the normal Uchiha eyes. Second Madara, whether you buy the bloodline of the Tengu theory or not, seems to have been known by Kyuubi, and as Sasuke did not know the name and Kyuubi had been trapped in Naruto, we know that Madara was not around for their lifetime. So given that not even Itachi has called AL by that name we know Madara is not from any part of the current time. Lastly, AL is not from any village that we have been shown. As the shots of AL were all in some weird area with technology we haven't seen. While it's possible he is from lightning as we have never seen Hidden Cloud except in those frames about the truth behind Neji's father, it isn't likely that is where he is from.

    4. Obito is now Tobi
    My Thoughts
    - Now I have been slowly getting behind this one as things have progressed. And before I start I want to say I don't believe Kish is some ex biology major that could properly interweave this into the story, but he could have consulted one. Now as I was saying. When Obito gave his eye to Kakashi, he lost the ability to perceive things properly and could be the cause of his clumsiness. Additionally the reconstruction that probably would have had to be done by Kakuzu and Zetsu, and given Tobi's former status as a Zetsu underling that would make some sense, as what better to help you spy then a Sharingan user. But I don't think Tobi is all Obito. What do you mean, you say? I think that like Aaroniero Arleri in bleach he is part Obito and part something or someone else. Sorta like Zetsu used part of himself to make Tobi or used part of another sub-ordinate who was recently or at the time currently dead and what better than to use part of an Uchiha and part of whatever that person was to make him complete.
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    Now as for the theories I've heard the one I get behind the most is the one made by Yasha over at Tazmo's.(sorry I know we hate Tazmo, but Yasha makes a good point. Just wish he would come over here) That now famous theory is: The Dark History of Uchiha: The Bloodline of the Tengu http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=106576 As the theory gets going you can't help but start to get the feeling that it is not only logical, but would make sense given the evidence and the way that the story is being told. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if that is the way it shakes out at all. And I've yet to see anyone who can present a logical counter to it. If one exists I'll give it a look, but until then I classify it as the single best and most possible theory.
    Last edited by Attila Khan; 06-06-2007 at 09:18 AM.


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