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    hellsblade is offline Junior Member Newbie
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    Gaara is probably able to control his Shukaku by now, it has been 3 years and i doubt its ever come out since...Neways, it doesnt take chakra for transformation, the Shukaku provides more chakra...

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    jjhjjh is offline Senior Member Respected Member
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    well we haven't seen gaara after the shukaku incident, so we dont know what has happened to gaara in terms of his sleep, jutsu and chakra. and his ability to control sand

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    Possibley by him becomeing Kazekage.

    (Theorectical here I dont know if this is worth saying)

    He would have acsess to jutsu, mabye some that help him control?

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    well let c if this help...
    when we first see the 1tail was when Gaara put him self too SLEEP (sleep It is characterized by a reduction in voluntary body movement) and thats when the 1tail takes over but now gaara was Unconscious (is a dramatic alteration of mental state that involves complete or near-complete lack of responsiveness to people and other environmental stimuli. Being in a comatose state or coma is an illustration of unconsciousness.) so his body is compleatly turn off not in any condition to move no matter what untill he recovers

    but i still think this is a plot hole :P lol

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    Mitchio is offline Junior Member Newbie
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    Yeah, that is a good theory,

    And I think after the Chunin exam, hes kinda become, more nicer, not having the whole killing thing about him, mabye its more in control. Like naruto kyubi.

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    A plot hole is a gap in a storyline that goes against the flow of logic set-up by the plot or that undermines the basic premises of the story.
    Shukaku not taking over Gaara while he was knocked out, is no way a plot hole

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    Well...what people said about Gaara getting stronger and having more control just makes the plot hole greater. Let me explain.

    The first time the beast inside Gaara was introduced, it was summoned by Gaara by putting himself to sleep, meaing Gaara already KNEW how to summon the beast; therefore, he had control when he wanted transformed, but no control after.

    The beast would have offered his chakra to Gaara to make sure its container doesn't die because if Gaara dies, so does the beast. This was the reason why Naruto is able to tap into Kyuubi's chakra; He was always getting beat to death and Kyuubi helps him again and again to keep Naruto alive.

    If anything, the beast should have come out as soon as the explosion went off inside the sand defence.

    I dont think it matters if Gaara is sleeping or knocked out cold. The way i see it, if Gaara isn't in control, the beast would be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hotaruofmibu View Post
    Shukaku not taking over Gaara while he was knocked out, is no way a plot hole
    its a plot hole lol this is just my theory to cover the plot hole
    Quote Originally Posted by Tsukumaru View Post
    Well...what people said about Gaara getting stronger and having more control just makes the plot hole greater. Let me explain.

    The first time the beast inside Gaara was introduced, it was summoned by Gaara by putting himself to sleep, meaing Gaara already KNEW how to summon the beast; therefore, he had control when he wanted transformed, but no control after.

    The beast would have offered his chakra to Gaara to make sure its container doesn't die because if Gaara dies, so does the beast. This was the reason why Naruto is able to tap into Kyuubi's chakra; He was always getting beat to death and Kyuubi helps him again and again to keep Naruto alive.

    If anything, the beast should have come out as soon as the explosion went off inside the sand defence.
    well Naruto have a diferent relationship with his 9tail a mutual relationshp kinda like partners or teamates

    gaara relationship is more like the monster that apears in my sleep or as soon as i close my eyes plus the 1tail is not seal inside him as naruto demon is gaara demon can come out as soon as gaara sleeps naruto demon have new been out like gaaras has


    Quote Originally Posted by hotaruofmibu View Post
    I dont think it matters if Gaara is sleeping or knocked out cold. The way i see it, if Gaara isn't in control, the beast would be.

    this may or maynot make sence

    gaara = a car
    gaara mind = driver 1
    1tail = driver #2
    unconscious gaara = car without a motor

    they can drive as soon as one of the "drivers" is not there the other take over the "car" now with unconscious gaara no one can go anywere

    >.< I suck explaining
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    Quote Originally Posted by seal_broken View Post

    well Naruto have a diferent relationship with his 9tail a mutual relationshp kinda like partners or teamates
    This makes me think that mabey, Gaara just refused it's helped like Naruto did against Sasuke

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    I dont think it matters if Gaara is sleeping or knocked out cold. The way i see it, if Gaara isn't in control, the beast would be
    It's more along the lines of 'you don't know'
    It could always be that way.
    If Garaa goes to sleep or forces himslef to sleep the shukaku comes out.
    If he is knocked out maybe it can't.
    That's a good enough explanation for me.

    Actually it doesn't matter what the reason is (not only because it's in the past).
    There was no way Shukaku could've come out at that point.
    Deidara probably could've beaten it but it would've attacked and damaged the village.
    That'd destroy the development of Garaa and do you think that all the sand shinobi would've wanted to go rescue their Kage after that?


    And I don't really think that shukaku gives Garaa his chakra.
    Although it's just the one tailed bijuu it must've plenty more chakra than a shinobi.
    That would basically make Garaa a chakra monster just like Naruto, which he isn't.


    But just like you, I don't really know *gg*
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