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    Quote Originally Posted by SixthAngel View Post
    Depressed/sad people don't go around crying all the time. For example Gaara was miserable and he always had the same expression Sasuke has now. People who have healthy lives get sad at times and show it, then get over it just like Naruto and Sakura. Sasuke convinced himself that he shouldn't be happy if he is going after his brother, which is one reason he ran from his friends. He is unhappy but has convinced himself that he should be and has to be. Even Kakashi said that revenge will bring you no happiness, you will just suffer and hurt more.
    i could almost believe you if you didn't use a comparison as bad as Gaara. that's just a plain dumb comparison. Gaara never had the same expression, remember? he used to lose control, scream or hold on to his head. he used to even talk to himself. Have you seen sasuke do that???

    again, really DUMB comparison.

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    ^ You still didn't answer this:

    http://www.stoptazmo.com/showpost.ph...2&postcount=94


    Do you really think that's happy with the way that things are going?

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    @dollar:thats kinda HARSH........i believe sixth was talking about gaara's expresion.....not behavior which you seem to be describing. gaara always seemed to have a very resigned indifferent pissed of look,if you know what i mean.....which i kinda the same look that sasuke seems to have most of the time. the only time gaara ever realy screamed and held onto his head was when he was in a blood lust kind of state...that and when he was loosing himself to the one tail. since sasuke never realy has the killing intent (unless its toward itachi) and he isnt a jinkjuriki (spelling?) he doesnt go all crazy like gaara.
    pls dont get all heated and pissed.
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    @asianmaster
    also whenever somebody said something back to him he went crazy, guy protected lee, he went crazy. naruto and shikamaru protected lee, he went crazy. Gaara was just an unstable character. its very different from sasuke.

    @adonai,
    notice how sasuke didn't even blink an eye when suigetsu threatened him? and most likely he was remembering the good old days, that doesn't mean he regrets it. Sasuke has had one and only determination since the beginning and its Itachi, nothing else matters. Plus he hasn't failed, he's walking the road he wants.

    very different from naruto who has strayed from his Hokage route, notice how he doesn't even mention it anymore. anytime you mention sasuke to naruto or sakura, no matter how happy or laughing they were, u see them put a sad or miserable look on their face. Even when kakashi told naruto about the risk of the jutsu, Naruto put on the Emo look

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    Quote Originally Posted by xxDoLLarBiLLxx View Post
    notice how sasuke didn't even blink an eye when suigetsu threatened him?
    Exactly, he smiled, that's not the hallmark of a normal, stable individual. He obviously can't be happy about someone saying "now that I have this giant knife I might be able to kill you". It was a bitter smile, the only emotion that he allows himself to show is contempt and amusement, that doesn't equate to happiness at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by xxDoLLarBiLLxx View Post
    and most likely he was remembering the good old days, that doesn't mean he regrets it. Sasuke has had one and only determination since the beginning and its Itachi, nothing else matters. Plus he hasn't failed, he's walking the road he wants.
    I meant that he was reminded that he failed at beating Haku despite having the sharingan, while Naruto won easily, Naruto also performed beyond expectations in that he mobilized the villagers, resulting in a giant bridge being named after him. Again, he can't be having of fond memories of having 6-inch-long needles stuck through his neck while him best friend is treated like a hero. He's showing amusement at what he perceives to be his and Naruto's current differences in light of what happened to them previously. He's become a cynic, and a cynic can never truly be content.


    I'm not saying that he regrets what he's currently doing, I'm saying that he's not happy doing it. He even said that he realized that this would be the case when he talked to Kakashi before he met up with the sound four. In contrast, Naruto and Sakura can truly appreciate each other's company, they have people that they truly trust, they have a goal that they know will bring them happiness once it's accomplished, and they aren't afraid to show their emotions.

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    think he still wants to become hokage, but there are other important things to acheive first, like wipe out the akastuki threat and save sasuke from oro ( eventually). after all this is done he would become hokage. its just the process. this is naruto's road to become hokage.

    they sad because they want him back and they know they dont have the poewr as of yet to do it. well, its better than some person whos looks chronically pissed all the time

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    It doesn't have to mean he regrets it, but it can.

    And it's not the road he wants to walk. I think he would've preferred another way besides having Orochimaru lurking around him.
    For him it's the goal at the end that matters, not the way he has to take.

    One thing is very clear though. Sasuke is not a guy that shows his emotions so openly like Naurto. But in his time in Konoha we saw him smile and have fun.
    We don't see that now.
    So there is no way he is happy now. But he smiles as soon as he sees Naruto's name.
    So he's maybe not miserable, but he's not happy either. Not as happy as he was in Konoha.

    And Sakura and Naruto are very different, so you can't compare them to him.
    They show their feelings. Not only their whining but their laughing as well.


    And about Naruto straying from his route.
    Sasuke's main goal besides killing Itachi is rebuilding his clan. Killing Itachi comes first, just like getting Sasuke back comes before being Hokage for Naruto.
    You could see it that way and suddenly they are not that different.


    But are you sure your not you're not a Sasuke lover? You seem to take his side every time *gg*
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    guess Kishi-san finally read fanfictions....

    YAOI!!!!!!!!!!! =_=

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    Quote Originally Posted by adonai View Post
    Exactly, he smiled, that's not the hallmark of a normal, stable individual. He obviously can't be happy about someone saying "now that I have this giant knife I might be able to kill you". It was a bitter smile, the only emotion that he allows himself to show is contempt and amusement, that doesn't equate to happiness at all.



    I meant that he was reminded that he failed at beating Haku despite having the sharingan, while Naruto won easily, Naruto also performed beyond expectations in that he mobilized the villagers, resulting in a giant bridge being named after him. Again, he can't be having of fond memories of having 6-inch-long needles stuck through his neck while him best friend is treated like a hero. He's showing amusement at what he perceives to be his and Naruto's current differences in light of what happened to them previously. He's become a cynic, and a cynic can never truly be content.


    I'm not saying that he regrets what he's currently doing, I'm saying that he's not happy doing it. He even said that he realized that this would be the case when he talked to Kakashi before he met up with the sound four. In contrast, Naruto and Sakura can truly appreciate each other's company, they have people that they truly trust, they have a goal that they know will bring them happiness once it's accomplished, and they aren't afraid to show their emotions.
    now you diggin a little too deep there and making it much more than what it is. its almost as if you are trying to enter the mind of sasuke(kishimoto) himself and say what your thoughts or beliefs would be if you were him and write it down as fact....
    I go from what the manga says and has shown, and not what i think.

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    ^ And you've interpreted his smile (at the bridge) to mean that he remembered his past fondly (aside from the fact that you're doing the same thing that you accuse me of doing, I'll interpret things from your perspective).

    If he only smiles when he sees a reminder of a happier time, then how can he you say that he is happy doing what he's currently doing?

    I repeat, I'm not saying that he regrets his decision, just that he's accepted that he can't be happy devoting himself to killing someone, and his current actions reflect this lack of contentment and peace.


    And works of fiction are meant to be interpreted, unless we get a direct POV from a character's thoughts, how can we tell what they're thinking or feeling, other than from their actions and expressions?

 

 
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