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    Quote Originally Posted by kaom View Post
    Nah, it's water moon.

    I wonder why Kishimoto keeps making all these genderless characters? Deidara was debated until voiced in the anime...Haku had to state his gender...it's like some kind of incredible running gag. He can't draw cute girls, so he draws cute guys...?

    Halohead - I laughed way too hard and for too long at that. T__T
    I don't think "permission" will stop him from using it in extreme situations, though. Much like Lee's lotus, it will probably be a last resort jutsu.
    there is a character like that in every manga:
    Naruto: Haku, Deidara
    Bleach: yumichika
    getbackers: Kazuki
    OP: Okama dude
    666satan: Michael,jio's opposite
    u get the point........
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    IT is powerful but Its not the powerful jutsu in all naruto. Remember the jutsus belong to a certain doujutsu clan which i shall not name. My whole issue is why the restriction?? ITs like you give somebody 1000 dollars and then tell them that they cant spend it.

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    i was wondering....if tsuandi doesnt want naruto to use shurican sharingan, does that mean naruto cant train to complete the jutsu? i think that once the jutsu has been completed it wont cause as much if any damage to naruto.shurican rasengan was still a very rough and obviously incomplete jutsu.
    whether or not tsunadi doesnt want naruto to use it.....will kakashi allow naruto to use it if he wants or has to?
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    The more powerful the jutsu the more risk. MS is surely a forbidden jutsu to use because it makes you blind and hurts the eyes, the gates are forbidden because of the damage to the body, the seal that yondaime and the third used is forbidden because it kills you. The rasenshuriken is like these because it damages the body but when people have no choice but to use self damaging jutsu they have throughout the manga and this will not change in the future.

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    i was also wondering, if sasuke "took over"...did he also absorb oro's knowledge of jutsus etc?

    i think the whole 3 headed dragon snake thing was just a manifestation of sasuke's will eating up oro's demension.
    "Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate.
    Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure.
    It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us.
    We ask ourselves, Who am I to be brilliant,
    gorgeous, talented, fabulous?"
    Actually, who are you not to be?

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    I guess you can say the same about oro's body transfers. every body he has ends up like zombies and die off in 3 years.

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    We actually don't know how long Oro's transfers usually last. The one he attacked Konoha with lasted more then three years because his body wasn't rejecting him when he used the tranfer jutsu again. When he realized his body before Sasuke was rejecting his response seemed to indicate that rejection would not always happen. I think that there is a chance each time that the body will eventually reject him but it does not happen everytime.

    Since Sasuke is just "in control" and Oro is not dead you can bet he will be back. I still predict that if Sasuke uses the curse seal Oro will gain more control. I forget the exact words but the sound four said something along the lines of using it makes you Oro's slave/Oro gains control over you. Oro gaining control because of that would make perfect sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xxDoLLarBiLLxx View Post
    there is a character like that in every manga:
    Naruto: Haku, Deidara
    Bleach: yumichika
    getbackers: Kazuki
    OP: Okama dude
    666satan: Michael,jio's opposite
    And Sai... for Naruto.

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    Various definitions taken from posters at NF (found here).

    I like the last one the most, it hints at him/her being a Kimimaro clone. Though apparently it's also a girl's name, I can live with it either way (or some other identity for this new character, long as it's interesting).



    Is this some kind of acupuncture (or stuff like that) term ? Because the usual anatomical word for "solar plexus" is 太陽神経叢 (たいようしんけいそう).

    Concerning 水月//Suigetsu like some other pronunciations of those kanji ("Mizuki" or "Mitsuki" ...) those are girl's names according to the Edict dictionary...so it's look like the little Sasuke has somehow sympathize with a woman


    *Suigetsu is made using the kanji for "water" and "moon". It's short for 鏡花水月 (kyou-ka-sui-getsu), an analogy for poetry in Japanese, where the true meaning of poetry can't be described in words. The literal meaning is something I quote from the dictionary and it states: "as the moon reflects on the water, the flowers reflect on a mirror."

    Suigetsu (watery moon) literally refers to the image of a moon reflected in a body of water. It is a Buddhist term (although in Buddhist contexts it usually is pronounced "suigatsu").

    In mainstream Buddhist scriptures the watery moon is one of the standard metaphors used for explaining the concept of the emptiness of all things. In other words, the phenomena of the world --- just like reflections of the moon seen in water --- only seem real, or seem more solid than they really are, or only seem real to people who lack the ability to perceive reality as it really is. Other metaphors used in Buddhist scriptures to convey this same notion include: foam, bubbles, smoke, hollow banyan trees, apparitions, dreams, shadows, echoes, floating clouds, flashes of lightening, sky flowers, mirages, etc. The watery moon, therefore, frequently accompanies these other objects. In this sense, the watery moon is a standard motif in Japanese literature and art.

    In esoteric (tantric) Buddhist scriptures the watery moon (suigatsu) usually stands in relative relationship to the heavenly moon (tengatsu; i.e., the moon in the heavens). In this metaphor the meaning of the watery moon changes slightly. Obviously, the heavenly moon is the real moon and the watery moon is only its reflection. But that does not mean that the watery moon is unreal. The heavenly moon is unobtainable. It is not part of our world. The watery moon, therefore, is the only moon that is real to us. In other words, it is the only moon that appears as part of the world of human beings. When we see the watery moon inside the beads of sweat on our bodies, then the watery moon becomes part of us.

    There is only one heavenly moon, but there are an infinite number of watery moons --- as many as their are bodies (or drops) of water.

    This relationship between the watery moon and heavenly moon represents the relationship between the cosmic buddha and the divinities (i.e., local buddhas and local gods) who appear in our world. The Buddhist scriptures are preached by the cosmic buddhas, but the real teachings of Buddhism are revealed by the personal divinities who are invoked in tantric rituals.

    One kind of tantric ritual for invoking the presence of these divinities is known as the moon disk contemplation (gatsurin kan). It involves meditating on a white circle (or disk) shaped like a full moon and moving that sphere of light into one's own chest. This type of meditation is extremely important in Buddhist yoga (and it is a standard form of training for improving one's martial ability).

    In these tantric senses as well, the watery moon is a standard motif in Japanese literature and art.

    There is another characteristic of the relationship between heavenly moon and watery moon that is of particular importance in martial arts. There is only one heavenly moon, and it is always out of reach. It is out of range. Nonetheless, as soon as the clouds clear from the sky, the heavenly moon without moving instantly appears inside the boundaries of all the infinite bodies of water. In other words, the immovable heavenly moon invades the water faster than the eye can see.

    In this sense of immovability and moving into (invading into) the watery moon is a standard motif in Japanese literature, art, and martial arts. Suppose two armies are lined up on the battle field facing one another. The moment when the troops from one side are about to charge into the defensive line of the other side is called the watery-moon moment. The techniques for conducting this operation are watery-moon techniques.

    The watery moon also is extremely important for swordsmanship. The sword also is a watery moon. Ordinary people cannot see it, but a trained swordsman can. Developing this ability to see the watery moon is the first step in knowing how to detect when the sword is out of reach and when it is in range. There are a wide variety of specialized sword techniques related to this principle.

    The watery moon also is important metaphor for physiology. According to Buddhist yoga the body has five cakra (wheels, disks, spheres; i.e., the "gorin" of the book: Gorin no sho). The one in the lower belly is water. The one in the heart is fire. The watery moon can seen as the point where these two cakra intersect. In Chinese medicine, it is related to the triple burner (or triple heater). In terms of Western physiology, its location corresponds to the solar plexus --- but I doubt if it is proper to translate suigetsu as solar plexus. It both is and is not the same as the solar plexus.

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    A girl huh... that would be very interesting..

    btw.

    Im usually not one for wacked out theories... so ill post this in white so peoples eyes wont bleed from its random stupidity

    What if Orochimaru is now the equivalent of Kyuubi in Naruto. I think Sasuke has the skill to hold him in the mental plane in the same way he sealed Kyuubi in Naruto. But instead of lending him chakra Orochimaru will lend him say... the summons or his jutsu, even if by force Sasuke has to take it. I don't think Orochimaru is dead (too anticlimactic) and i doubt sasuke could have learned all of Orochimaru's jutsu... even further sasukes wording is very peculiar.


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    ^I have crossed fingers for a kunoichi myself, but just wait for all the Mizugetsu/Suigetsu = Shisui Uchiha theories. Otherwise, nice chapter.
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