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    asianmaster is offline Senior Member Respected Member
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    ^sasuke is not a genjutsu user....he is strictly tai and nin. i wouldnt say he can surpress the kyubi....at that time he didnt want to use,and it wasnt realy making any effort to escape.once naruto goes into a tailed mode i highly doubt sasuke can do anything about it.
    the advantage that sasuke does have is the fact that he now has a kusunagi sword (i forgot about that).naruto is gonna need a spacial kunai like asuma.
    naruto is now able to use the bunshins to their fullest.....he wont just be throwing a huge amount away for nothing....for each one that sasuke defeats,naruto gains that much more knowledge on sasuke.which could maybe help him think up a plan to overcome the speed gap. at the same time he can also summon gammabunta which is an advantage on naruto's part.
    naruto and sasuke both have a forbiden jutsu (not sure if jiraiya meant the the 4tailed mode as naruto's the forbiden jutsu)

    we cant forget that naruto has a constant unknown variable. that variable is naruto's will...to never give up. that factor is what has gotten him this far.

    all of this has lead me to believe....that i have no clue as to the outcome of a battle between naruto and sasuke..............

    looking at the facts,it doesnt seem as if sasuke is soooooooooo much stronger then naruto.
    Last edited by asianmaster; 03-20-2007 at 06:44 PM.
    "Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate.
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    Actually, who are you not to be?

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    ^ -Kyuubi itself said that Sasuke could suppress its chakra.
    - Sasuke not being a skilled genjutsu user does not mean that he cannot use genjutsu properly.
    - I do not think a bunshin can give much knowledge to its user, if it was killed quickly.
    - Naruto's Constant Variable/Deus ex Machina/Plot no Jutsu/whatever you may call it, is what I meant with Luck.


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    Naruto doesn't need the Kyuubi chakra anymore. I thought it was hinted that he would defeat Sasuke withou it.
    Glory to the almighty kingdom.
    Perish into the wrathful sea
    or ascend into the open arms of Pandora herself.
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    So Naruto can't use the Rasen-shuriken, who cares?

    He still has "that jutsu" to fall back on. ( Chapter 251, Naruto's leaving Konoha in the rescue Gaara mission. )

    Hahahahaha....who am I kidding. Kishimoto completely forget the teaser he wrote about almost 100 chapters ago. He made us think "Whoa! Naruto has some ace up his sleeve that can dismantle an enemy! I can't wait to see it"

    Considering Jiriya warned Naruto not to use "that jutsu", to me it obviously implies two things:
    1. It was developed during the time span Naruto was away from Konoha, training with Jiriya
    2. The jutsu most likely has some weakness, flaw, or causes damage to the user

    And I haven't seen Naruto use any jutsu that meets those 2 items. Before the rasen-shuriken, no jutsu Naruto did strikes out to me as new. And no jutsu ( not counting the rasen-shuriken ) he used should be dangerous enough to Naruto to prompt a warning.

    Sadly, I don't think we'll ever see "that jutsu".
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    @dante: sasuke was able to supress the fox before naruto manifested a tail....i dont believe think sasuke would be able to supress the kyubi while its chakra is already flowing through naruto.
    we havnt realy seen sasuke do genjutsu...he may be able to do simple genjutsu,but i dont think he will ever be able to match itachi or even surpass him when it comes to gen, tai and nin maybe.
    the bunshins used by naruto against kakuzu were killed pretty quikly,but naruto managed to form a plan non the less.
    naruto is lucky at times....but he is also determined.....even when he gets fuked up and cant possibly stand....he gets up and keeps on going.
    "Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate.
    Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure.
    It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us.
    We ask ourselves, Who am I to be brilliant,
    gorgeous, talented, fabulous?"
    Actually, who are you not to be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by asianmaster View Post
    @dante: sasuke was able to supress the fox before naruto manifested a tail....i dont believe think sasuke would be able to supress the kyubi while its chakra is already flowing through naruto.
    Kyuubi said that Sasuke was even able to suppress its chakra. He never mentioned that Sasuke was only capable of doing it while Naruto was in that state.

    Quote Originally Posted by asianmaster View Post
    we havnt realy seen sasuke do genjutsu...he may be able to do simple genjutsu,but i dont think he will ever be able to match itachi or even surpass him when it comes to gen, tai and nin maybe.
    He used some sort of genjutsu on Sai, and Kabuto. I never said that he became a master of ninjutsu, just that he seemed to able of using it properly.

    Quote Originally Posted by asianmaster View Post
    the bunshins used by naruto against kakuzu were killed pretty quikly,but naruto managed to form a plan non the less.
    Indeed, but Sasuke's and Kakuzu's fighting styles are different. The fact that Naruto was able to come up with a plan, quite easily, to defeat Kakuzu, does not mean that he will be able to do the same thing with Sasuke, or other ninjas. Kakuzu was quite a slow fighter, at least against Naruto, he was quite slow in his movements. Sasuke, Itachi, or Lee, wouldn't give him that much time to think.

    Quote Originally Posted by asianmaster View Post
    naruto is lucky at times....but he is also determined.....even when he gets fuked up and cant possibly stand....he gets up and keeps on going.
    Determination is a good thing, and virtue, but that does not mean that you will definitely succeed on everything that you attempt to do. Naruto, through the Will of Fire/Deus ex Machina/Plot no Jutsu/etc has won every single fight he has been in (save the one against Sasuke, but technically, he did not lose either), that is not just determination, those are another factors which I rather describe as luck.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dante Obscuri View Post
    Determination is a good thing, and virtue, but that does not mean that you will definitely succeed on everything that you attempt to do. Naruto, through the Will of Fire/Deus ex Machina/Plot no Jutsu/etc has won every single fight he has been in (save the one against Sasuke, but technically, he did not lose either), that is not just determination, those are another factors which I rather describe as luck.
    either that or its a fictional story and will follow the plot but we all know that doesnt effect anything haha

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    When Naruto goes into 4-tailed mode, he actually goes inside the gate with the Kyubi, if Sasuke has the same amount of maneuverability inside of Naruto's mind then technically he should be able to easily kill the Kyubi, he just have to make eye contact, go inside the gate and suppress the Kyubi where he no longer has a point of retreat, if it was really that easy I think that somebody would have tried it instead of sealing it inside of an infant.

    Still the Kyubi specifically told Sasuke not to kill Naruto, he definitely believed it to be possible or more than likely that that could happen (that Sasuke is capable of killing Naruto). Since he himself believed that Naruto can't die while they're merged (he is pretty arrogant), it would suggest that he think Sasuke can suppress his even during battle.

    It isn't clear enough right now and I doubt that it ever will be clarified (except maybe in a future databook).

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    Default OMG this was so godamned predictable.

    It was so cliched that he gets a new superpowered move that he can only use int eh most desperate situations. Oh well, I guess Naruto's fighting will remain stale, no new moves.

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    give me a second: naruto's bunshins are able to do rasenshuriken, right? Why doesn't he have them CASTING it?

    That way he saves his arm, the arm that'd get broken is the bunshin's (i.e: nothing relevant) and woot, no drawbacks to kickass jutsu

 

 
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