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    Enoryt is offline Member Frequent Poster
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    I don't think it works like that. For one, I don't think EVERY character uses an Element. Secondly, Shikamaru's Shadow Manipulation is NOT a bloodline limit. Just a jutsu signature to their clan. Thirdly, there was no limit placed on the number of elements a person can use HOWEVER some people can use two elements simultaneously at one time, which is a bloodline limit (Such as in the case with Haku, who could use water and wind AT ONE TIME creating ice. Whether he could use them seperately, we're not sure of).

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    You have to have a bloodline limit to merge two elements and create new. But it was STATED that Shadow Manipulation is not a Kekkai Genkai. So Shadow is not some kind of merged element. I doubt it but it can be yin chakra that was named but not explained when ather enementral crap was explained. Or just another form of shape control.

    I personally like idea of Gaara's Sand jutsus being merged element from his Earth and Shukaku's Wind but doubt it. It was explained in a way it is just a plain sand infused with Gaara's chakra.

    And, Haku was able to manipulate Water, as we seen in his flashback
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enoryt View Post
    some people can use two elements simultaneously at one time, which is a bloodline limit (Such as in the case with Haku, who could use water and wind AT ONE TIME creating ice. Whether he could use them seperately, we're not sure of).
    I doubt that Kekkei Genkai are that restrictive, or that open.

    It still has to be an ability that can be passed along reliably through the generations. For example, mokuton or iron sand would qualify as Kekkei Genkai but they aren't because they're not inheritable.

    And can you really say that Sharingan or Shikotsumyaku or Byakugan are formed by mixing elements? There should even be other factors to consider, like the yin/yang or light/dark chakra type that Yamato mentioned.

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    if gaara's shukaku makes him sand.... then naruto's kyuubi makes him what???

    im sure the jinchuuriki have some element or whatever.

    Shikotsumyaku .....is what?

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    ^Shikotsumyaku is what Kimimaro used. His bone manipulation kekkei genkai.
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    I am seriously confused now. How come the sharingan let kakashi copy ice dragon jutsu then if ice is not his elemental.Also how can oro try to gain all the jutsu if he doesnt have blood line that is requred to use some of the jutsu like wood and ice. I dont think it eally matters which element nature u are. They gotta talk more about elements in that manga.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mj45 View Post
    I am seriously confused now. How come the sharingan let kakashi copy ice dragon jutsu then if ice is not his elemental.Also how can oro try to gain all the jutsu if he doesnt have blood line that is requred to use some of the jutsu like wood and ice. I dont think it eally matters which element nature u are. They gotta talk more about elements in that manga.
    I'm pretty sure that dragon was made out of water. You're talking about the one from the Zabuza saga right?


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    ^ Movie, which is in itself the answer.

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    movie=fillers...

    kishimoto didn't write the script...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjhjjh View Post
    kakashi is water as well. haku is ice ( wind and water), and some use more hijutsu than nature manipulation like Shikamaru,Kiba and Shino.For Naruto it would be nice if he had the second nature of water or earth to counter fire, but gives a vunrability to the other element that Sasuke has.
    kakashi isn't water... he's using his sharingan to copy water jutsus. i think that's it -.- i don't think he can actually manipulate the water nature.

 

 
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