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    What I mean is, well pandaman1982 just said it. Kinda bad at expressing after such a shocking chapter. Well what's done is done, I'll stop my ranting. How about Ino, the hell did she do except mumbling some 'kyaaaa' and tracking the enemy... >.>'

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    n e vermind

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    Quote Originally Posted by pandaman1982 View Post
    Actually I'm thinking Naruto should change his name to Goku-wannabe, seriously it felt like something out of Dragonball Z the sidekicks struggle long and hard against a powerful opponent then the main character shows up out of nowhere after doing some training and easily obliterates the enemy with a powerful new special move. There was just so little drama or suspense in the Kakazu fight, he was like a film extra who had run out of screentime or a red shirt wearing non-main character on the away team of the original Star Trek.
    come on man, Naruto isn't exactly Like DbZ. All shounen main characters usually have the same characteristics, so even Goku probably ressembled some other shounen characters.

    Im slightly disappointed by this Jutsu because wind jutsus were suppose to be strong in mid-range, and naruto already had the rasengan and the odama which is why i thought the rasenshuuriken was a pointless jutsu and lack of creativity on Kishi's part. It showed he couldn't come up with a credible strong mid-range wind Jutsu. There bunch of things Naruto can use wind for, it remains to be seen what more Kishi will come up with.

    Also Naruto being down was really lame on Kishi's part, he didn't even get hit Kazuku yet he's on the floor unable to get up at the end to create more dramatic effect...

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    Quote Originally Posted by HFreeman View Post
    If you're talking about an ambush, technically no one won that skirmish. You cant simply say he beat both, when he all he did was strategize beforehand, ambush, surprise, and outsmart. Eventually, they got back up one they're feet and split up. Shikamaru had beaten Hidan and Naruto had beaten Kakuzu. 1 win for each.

    Both Hidan and Kakuzu were warned from the get-go to be extra catious about Naruto and the Leaf village's "Will of Fire", and look what happen: One fell by Shikamaru's "Will of Fire", while the other fell by Naruto's destructive power. Any instances that gave an opening to their (Naru and Shika's) victory, whether by luck,skill, good preparation, or stupidity on foe's part is now irrelevant, because Hidan and Kakuzu were defeated by their arrogance. Thats really the moral of this Akatsuki battle.

    I dont see the point of what you're complaining about. Naruto won because of good intuition and proper shadow clone usage and Kakuzu lost because of arrogance (some bloated transformation doesnt matter because he was already transformed the moment he whipped out those masks). The level of planning the was presented in both battles, which you're arguing, just doesn't stack up because different matchups bring about different outcomes. Some bad guys got served hot whoopins, plain and simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SixthAngel View Post
    It had nothing to do with Kakuzu entering long distance mode. It had to do with Naruto predicting Kakuzu putting all his effort into taking out the "real" Naruto. It doesn't matter what move/jutsu he used because Naruto predicted he would put his attention on that clone.

    Kakuzu didn't do anything stupid in this fight, in fact he used a long distance attack which is the smart thing to do against a close range jutsu. Naruto's plan was great and his mastery of kage bunshin allowed him to hide which one was the real Naruto. necessary.
    stupid things kakuzu did.

    - give 2304932094209 minutes for naruto to do his rasengan.
    - not have a back up plan
    - not attack KBs, since they are real entities.
    - use multiple jutsus, since it's more effective than one attack simple attack.

    You just automatically think that if Naruto wins the enemy did something stupid when he really has the skills
    just to state the obvious, who was going to doubt naruto was going to win? he's the main character. -_- Just the way he won was the lamest and dumbest in entire naruto manga so far. By far the worst fight ever, no suspense, no "actual" fighting. Nothing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by deuce22 View Post
    just to state the obvious, who was going to doubt naruto was going to win? he's the main character. -_- Just the way he won was the lamest and dumbest in entire naruto manga so far. By far the worst fight ever, no suspense, no "actual" fighting. Nothing.
    Quoted For Truth because I feel like it. Even in a manga with a demon fox trapped inside a kid and ninjas running and fighting on water, and shooting fire all over the place. The Naruto vs Kakazu fight just required such a great suspension of disbelief that I probably would only get it if I was drunk out of my head and calling everyone around me a leprechaun, and demanding they give me either their lucky charms or their pot of gold. And I can't afford thatr much alcohol.

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    Well, I would have to agree with XXDollarBillXX, that i fail to see the importance of this new jutsu, since it has virtually the same effect as the Oodama Rasengan. Only differences seems to be that Oodama only needed two Narutos to create it as opposed to the Fuuton Rasen Shuriken needing three, and that the sends the opponent flying.
    But then again, thinking over this just now, Yamato did say after all that the jutsu is not yet complete. So we all hope that there will be better development on the new jutsu. What this chapter shows is that this jutsu has an extremely tremendous amount of destructive power.

    It does seem like he killed him off, doesn't it? Or will he have only taken out one heart, two hearts at most?

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    I hate to point this out...but the spoiler says kakuzu is passed out....not that hes dead >.<, I dunno if its a miss translation or what...

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    Quote Originally Posted by deuce22 View Post
    stupid things kakuzu did.

    - give 2304932094209 minutes for naruto to do his rasengan.
    - not have a back up plan
    - not attack KBs, since they are real entities.
    - use multiple jutsus, since it's more effective than one attack simple attack.
    Learn to read a manga it is not hard.

    -Naruto made the rasengan incredibly fast. He made a second one and used it in this fight before Kakuzu could even react from attacking the clone.

    -You can't always have a backup plan in a fight. Not having one is not stupid but impossible most of the time. You are really just making things up.

    -Apparently you missed the entire first attack so I will explain to you what happened and show why your last two points are worthless. In the first attack Kakuzu used multiple powerful jutsus (the elemtal ones you completely missed earlier) and his tentacles to stop the clones from hitting him and it allowed Naruto to land his jutsu if it didn't suddenly stop. Naruto did the "simulation" before that attack to realize how many clones he would need to land his attack. Kakuzu learned from the encounter and realized that these types of attacks would not work (the ones you are actually suggesting). The best option would be to destroy the real body that controls the jutsu capable of hitting him before it can get close. The clones without the jutsu are not as big a threat and will be gone once he kills the real Naruto. He uses a new jutsu so when he dodges all the distractions with his jump he can take out the real Naruto from a distance. Naruto cleverly predicted he would focus on the "real" Naruto so he hid himself as a clone so he made a new rasenshuriken incredibly quickly to hit him.

    This is a well calculated battle by both sides where each opponent learns about the other during each skirmish and changes their approach.
    Last edited by SixthAngel; 02-08-2007 at 12:24 AM.

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    Listen to SixthAngel, unbelievers! His words are TRUTH.

    As for Fuuton RasenShuriken being unimportant: It is technically Areal Effect jutsu (look at size of the crater) and is uber-strong one-hit-sure-kill-no-matter-of-what, when Rasengan (even Odama) still has a chance leaving strong enemy alive.
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