Thread: how to build a bloodline limit

i searched the forum but found no answer...
so, how the fuck is a bloodline limit started? i mean, when kakashi explained it there were just some wierd berserk-apostels-like shadows called "their ancestors", who supposedly somehow maneged to modifie their own DNA in a way no one seems to be able copy. but how did they do that? i mean, if even orochimaru doesn't even think about creating one, but just searches the already existing, how fucking strong must "the ancestors" have been?!? how come they haven't stopped the beasts way more early, instead of waiting for the 4th and akatsuki to capture/ban them?

Bloodline limited are discussed through the simlpicity of combining two elements. Most Ninjas who try to fuse 2 Elements have difficulty, while Bloodline Users do so in ease, such as Ice that Haku used.

I think it's just that certain families have more pure shinobi bloodlines, so their abilities to handle and manipulate chakra are more powerful, just through their genetics. Which means that this kind of breeding has made one particular, usually difficult, type of chakra manipulation easier for people in this family. So a while back one of these ancestors was just like, 'oh shit. Wow, I just figured out this really cool move that nobody else can do cuz they don't have my awesome chakra. I guss I'll teach it to my children and all the rest of my family.'

2 glasses of milk 500g of butter 3 egs and mix it together in 10C temperature for about 10 minutes then bake in 200C for 30 minutes vualla you have bloodline limit.
The truth is that kishi didnt exactly tell how the hell did they actualy get it or exactly explain about how it works and stuff. Probably its mixing 2 elements but who knows. And wonder what if actualy someone would have a bloodline which mix 5 elements ...

Several ways:

Originally Posted by Wikipedia

Induced mutations on the molecular level can be caused by:
Chemicals
Nitrosoguanidine (NTG)
Hydroxyamine NH3OH
Base analogs (e.g. BrdU)
Simple chemicals (e.g. acids)
Alkylating agents (e.g. N-ethyl-N-nitrosourea (ENU)) These agents can mutate both replicating and non-replicating DNA. In contrast, a base analog can only mutate the DNA when the analog is incorporated in replicating the DNA. Each of these classes of chemical mutagens has certain effects that then lead to transitions, transversions, or deletions.
Methylating agents (e.g. ethyl methanesulfonate (EMS))
Polycyclic hydrocarbons (e.g. benzpyrenes found in internal combustion engine exhaust)
DNA intercalating agents (e.g. ethidium bromide)
DNA crosslinker (e.g. platinum)
Oxidative damage caused by [[oxygen](O)] radicals
Radiation
Ultraviolet radiation (nonionizing radiation) - excites electrons to a higher energy level. DNA absorbs one form, ultraviolet light. Two nucleotide bases in DNA - cytosine and thymine-are most vulnerable to excitation that can change base-pairing properties. UV light can induce adjacent thymine bases in a DNA strand to pair with each other, as a bulky dimer.
Ionizing radiation

DNA has so-called hotspots, where mutations occur up to 100 times more frequently than the normal mutation rate. A hotspot can be at an unusual base, e.g., 5-methylcytosine.

Mutation rates also vary across species. Evolutionary biologists have theorized that higher mutation rates are beneficial in some situations, because they allow organisms to evolve and therefore adapt more quickly to their environments. For example, repeated exposure of bacteria to antibiotics, and selection of resistant mutants, can result in the selection of bacteria that have a much higher mutation rate than the original population (mutator strains).

...and a lot more, but i guess, this is enough for now. Or just read the whole article.

what I wonder is if those clans with blood line limits (hyuga,uchiha etc) have idiot decendants since (im guessing) they must breed between family members to mantain their genetic traits just like in the manga hinatas dad says that the hyuga clan has the purest blood line limit so I guess they are forbiden to breed with anyone outside their clan.

Originally Posted by rodis3d

i searched the forum but found no answer...
so, how the fuck is a bloodline limit started? i mean, when kakashi explained it there were just some wierd berserk-apostels-like shadows called "their ancestors", who supposedly somehow maneged to modifie their own DNA in a way no one seems to be able copy. but how did they do that? i mean, if even orochimaru doesn't even think about creating one, but just searches the already existing, how fucking strong must "the ancestors" have been?!? how come they haven't stopped the beasts way more early, instead of waiting for the 4th and akatsuki to capture/ban them?

http://www.stoptazmo.com/showthread.php?t=18066

Looks like there's room for discussion on this one, Talamare. I mean, I don't know the answer, it is kind of vague in the manga from what I remember, and people have already given more than one answer, as well as raised more questions.

-kaom

maybe use of special drugs and specific jutsu,refined over generations?
likie i think shika's great great (great) grandchildren may have a bloodline ability(shadow control).
sorta like a speeded version of evolution.
also,it is possible that only the ones without the limit but still part of the clan(say the uchiha)werent allowed to marry outside the clan.total inbreeding could cause insanity and genetically defective kids.(prolly how itachi was made lol)


edit:hope i got the right words out.

How to build a bloodline limit? Exactly same way as creating new breed of, erm, cats. Directive selection, inbreeding/outbreeding and other boring stuff.

However, there may be some more exotic factors, like demonic blood...

you make this bloodlines through many generations(the great great bla bla grandfather started it and only the great great great grandson managed to finish it)
so i think they try to make some unique jutsus through generations and then this jutsu is "stored" in the DNA