Thread: how to build a bloodline limit

through evolution, mutations, etc.

How to build a bloodline limit?

Have sex with you sister, mother, and cousins (specially the hot ones)

Originally Posted by Terasiel

...Now for me to say it. I just love doing this.
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Son: Oh god!
Father: What's Wrong Son?
Son: I think I caught something!
Father: Ah...son, I think it's time we had a little talk.
Son: About...what exactly?
Father: Well, ya see son, you were born, as they say, different.
Son: What kind of different?
Father: Well ya see, some people wonder around with no depth perception, some people have double Irises, and there are still others who are vaguely aware they exist at all.
Son: OH GOD! I'm going to die!
Father: No, no, maybe, no son. You see...you have a Ninja Condition.
Son: So I...can jump fifteen feet and disappear in a cloud of smoke?
Father: No...The doctors think you're going to experience a severe case of...DUUUUUUN...BONITIS!
Son: NOOOOOOOOO!!!
Father: Just kidding. Really, though, you have bones jutting from your FACE. It's kinda good to keep those little bastards from punching you.
Son:...what about the societal implications?
Father: Don't worry son, just breed and breed and breed. All of your kids will have it. Then you can kill everyone who laughs at you.
Son: YAY!

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I just had to quote myself. It seems that it's a purposeful training of a certain skill, but as to how it enters their genetic pattern is unexplained.

I'm definantly not on the "It just happens. Mutation!" boat.

well...not having a wide or deep knowledge of genetics, the best I can give is a guess...
but guessing on something theoretical, we can all do that cause its fun to voice our opinion!

IMO, Ninja Bloodlines could be compared to being double-jointed, already unscrambling extremely long words without thinking about it, or knowing exact numbers of any object or having a photographic memory.

Only 3 things exist to complete person: Mind, Body, and Soul/Spirit

Since Soul/Spirit goes either thru reincarnation or permanent destruction, they never re-enter the same body...so a Soul or Spirit could never hold a physical bloodline. a "Mind-Spirit" union could be made so you remember your past life (and past ninja knowledge) and if done enough times it could be become a bloodline to your children and so on down the line.
..hehe, this style is better than Orochimaru's immortality...only downside is your mom could be one of your past lovers or you end up in the family of your mortal enemy...and lying about memories could happen too!


Physical abnormalities that give you an edge can be both rewarding and discourging at the same times. How do you think the first Uchiha with the Sharingan felt... never missing even the slightest detail or perhaps for spying on a document 10-30 yards away?...or how about the first Hyuuga with Byakugan? do you think he used it to peep on the ladies?

also, some abilities made searching for a mate easier
"I have an ability that if our children also share, it makes you a founding mother of a clan and that will give you a huge status in the Village!"

what about Sakon and Kimimaro, able to join a persons body and kill them or able to grow bones you can shape and use to your own desire?


and finally the powers of Mind or rather
"Some anomoly of your brain that works faster/better, thus giving you an edge."
...Sadly, no known "Bloodlines" are displayed as being of "the mind" but you could assume that "the ability to be smart" could be passed down, but weather it is empowered or not is up to the person.

Both Shikamaru and Kakashi fall into here, though not a bloodline, being abnormally smart or resourcful has made Shikamaru a leader and Kakashi into a legend!

Oh wow, wtf, I lost a few brain cells in this thread.

Great Sig by the way.

It seems it's become a fashion to think of bloodline limits as coicidental, hasn't it?

My guess is probably through a mutation that is advantageous in nature. Or maybe several small mutations over time that combine to form a bloodline limit. The adantegous part is important because, especially during the times of the great nija wars, it would be important to survival. Kind of case of Charles Darwins Evolution by Natural Selection with Ninjas *LOL*

Originally Posted by Demon Eyez

what I wonder is if those clans with blood line limits (hyuga,uchiha etc) have idiot decendants since (im guessing) they must breed between family members to mantain their genetic traits just like in the manga hinatas dad says that the hyuga clan has the purest blood line limit so I guess they are forbiden to breed with anyone outside their clan.

We don't know if that is the case of all clans with bloodline limits. Though given Kimimaro's clans extensive xenophobia for, well, anyone other then their clan, I'd bet that they also ractice inbreeding. However, it is possibible that because of knowledge about the consequences of inbreeding that the Hyuga clan, and others if they practice inbreeding, do allow some interbreeding with other ninja familes, to keep the blodline form becoming to weak and diluted. Though they would still probably have to be strong ninjas in thier own right. Finally, escpecially if they interbreed the gene for the bloodline limit would have to be dominant, and not recessive.

Bloodline limited are discussed through the simlpicity of combining two elements. Most Ninjas who try to fuse 2 Elements have difficulty, while Bloodline Users do so in ease, such as Ice that Haku used.

How does the Uchiha Clan's Sharingan fit in to this? Or Kimimaro's Shikotsumyaku? How about the Byakugan? In other words fusing elements is only ONE KIND of Kekkei Genkai a.k.a. Bloodline Limit.

If my memories of biology lectures was right (95% of which I slept through), I think it required many generations of inbreeding for the gene to become permanent.

Well, that does explain why, and I laugh at this loudly and, I'll say it, quite often, that every Ninja family we've seen so far included a mother and father, and more depending, which specific-family traits that they couldn't have unless they were marrying their own kin.

Originally Posted by Malkavian Sniper

If my memories of biology lectures was right (95% of which I slept through), I think it required many generations of inbreeding for the gene to become permanent.

...No, a specific allele can't "disappear" unless the people that carries it all die. So I have no idea what you mean by permanent. If you mean that that specific phenotype is always expressed then that would still require continued inbreeding, what you’re saying doesn’t make any sense (though you aren’t really alone there, unfortunately).