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    Maggeh_Insanity is offline Senior Member Respected Member
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    Quote Originally Posted by SixthAngel View Post
    That is because everytime Kakuzu loses a heart he needs to replace it, 5 times and hes dead, Hidan could stab himself in the heart because he likes it and he does. Kakashi beat Hidan? Doubtful. Chidori is worthless against Hidan and although Kakashi has other moves Hidan is no slouch. Asuma wasn't some chump ninja, he was elite just like Kakashi and Hidan made it look easy. Fighting any of the akatsuki without a plan is a bad idea. Luckily for them they have a plan after watching the fight before.
    Indeed, Asuma is not a chump ninja. His bounty and status as one of the 12 Guardians is proof of that. But Kakashi IS stronger than Asuma, or at least that's what I'm getting from the fight against Kisame and Itachi. If you remember, Kurenai and Asuma were getting kicked around by the Akatsuki duo. Yet, Kakashi was able to hold his own (at least for a short while) against the both of them before being defeated by Itachi. Considering the flow of the battle, Kakashi was either equal to or stronger than Kisame. Probably stronger, although that's my biased opinion.

    Hidan IS strong. The fight against Asuma and the Two Tailed Cat proves it. But he's not smart. Frankly, I feel that Hidan's only ability is his immortality + connection combo. He's basically using the God Mode through the Konami Code of Naruto. But that's all he does. He's not fast in terms of fighting (slowest attacker in Akatsuki) or in thinking. Also, he's too arrogant, and that's the reason he got his head knocked off. If it hadn't been for Kakuzu to re-attach his head, he'd have been screwed. And he's too slow to realize that he's knocked out one of Kakuzu's hearts instead of Shika's.

    There are too many flaws with Hidan's fighting strategy. It revolves around being able to actually hit the enemy AND drawing blood in the first place. It also requires the creation of the seal. Finally, he needs to be in the seal.

    Kakashi is MUCH faster than Asuma. He managed to evade all of Hidan's attacks while dodging Kakuzu's masked shadows at the same time. If it was a one-on-one, I'd say there's a safe chance that Kakashi could run circles around Hidan anytime. Of course, then again, there's the fact that Kakashi knew what Hidan was capable of that time around, and wasn't caught unawares like Asuma.

    If we talk in terms of experience in fighting, Kakuzu probably has much more than Hidan, considering that he's survived long enough to fight the first Hokage. And I doubt that Hidan could draw blood from Kakuzu, because Kakuzu has his Iron Body, which makes him virtually invincible against physical attacks. The only reason Kakashi's Lightning Blade managed to pierce him was because of the elemental superiority.

    Frankly, I agree that going against the Akatsuki without a plan is stupid. It seems like all of the members have an infinite number of ways to stay alive. Sasori has his puppet switch, Orochi has his body switch every three years, Kakuzu has his threads, Deidara has his(?) clay and Kakuzu and Hidan has his immortality. And while there isn't anything for Zetsu, Itachi, Kisame or Tobi, you can probably bet that they all have ways of coming back. I wish they were easier to kill. >.>

    Huh. While writing this, one thing occured to mind. What would happen if Hidan licked his OWN blood and linked himself with himself? Would that kill him? XD

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    One thing: Whoa. Good question.

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    Indeed. Cause I was thining about the blood switch that Shika did, and it came to mind. XD

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    While writing this, one thing occured to mind. What would happen if Hidan licked his OWN blood and linked himself with himself? Would that kill him
    He already stabs himself through the heart, so I wouldn't change anything, would it?
    "For Feanor was made the mightiest in all parts of body and mind, in valour, in endurance, in beauty, in understanding, in skill, in strength and subtlety alike, of all the Children of Illuvatar, and a bright flame was in him"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feanor View Post
    He already stabs himself through the heart, so I wouldn't change anything, would it?
    But see, when he stabs himself, he's also linked with an enemy. But if he stabs himself while he's linked to himself, it's like a double stab. XD

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    It's still an odd question, if it's possible he's immortal because his vital organs are outside of his body...hint hint.

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    Maybe he's immortal because he remains constantly linked to his "God". So severe the link and he's a man.

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    Nah, too cliche. DX

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    Chidori wont work on Hidan? Maybe, maybe not. He doesn't die, but what are his regenerative abilities? We don't know. But we DO know that his body doesn't move without his head attached. So? Kakashi chidoris him right in the face, big hole, brain destroyed. Or he could use it to cut off his head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maggeh_Insanity View Post
    Indeed, Asuma is not a chump ninja. His bounty and status as one of the 12 Guardians is proof of that. But Kakashi IS stronger than Asuma, or at least that's what I'm getting from the fight against Kisame and Itachi. If you remember, Kurenai and Asuma were getting kicked around by the Akatsuki duo. Yet, Kakashi was able to hold his own (at least for a short while) against the both of them before being defeated by Itachi. Considering the flow of the battle, Kakashi was either equal to or stronger than Kisame. Probably stronger, although that's my biased opinion.XD
    Kakashi only used one jutsu, the same one as Kisame to cancel it, then fought Itachi and lost. Asuma was the one to actually hit Kisame.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maggeh_Insanity View Post
    Hidan IS strong. The fight against Asuma and the Two Tailed Cat proves it. But he's not smart. Frankly, I feel that Hidan's only ability is his immortality + connection combo. He's basically using the God Mode through the Konami Code of Naruto. But that's all he does. He's not fast in terms of fighting (slowest attacker in Akatsuki) or in thinking. Also, he's too arrogant, and that's the reason he got his head knocked off. If it hadn't been for Kakuzu to re-attach his head, he'd have been screwed. And he's too slow to realize that he's knocked out one of Kakuzu's hearts instead of Shika's.
    There is no way anyone would realize that they were hurting Kakuzu because Shikamaru fell dead on the ground and Kakuzu is far away.

    Also being the the slowest attacker in Akatsuki is like having the worst average on the all star team. The difference hardly matters because you are still on the all star team. Also during his fight with Asuma it is mentioned that he wields a big, slow three bladed scythe to he can make any kind of contact at all more easily. Asuma also learns of Hidans ability before he is killed but is not good enough to defeat him.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maggeh_Insanity View Post
    There are too many flaws with Hidan's fighting strategy. It revolves around being able to actually hit the enemy AND drawing blood in the first place. It also requires the creation of the seal. Finally, he needs to be in the seal.
    Every ninja technique involves actually hitting the enemy, except in almost all of the others a small wound won't do anything. Hidan makes his seal incredibly fast against Shikamaru and as shown against Asuma once it is made you have to worry about not only him attacking you but also his positioning according to the mark. Asuma had him outside the mark and could hardly handle the regular attacks much less when Hidan managed and planned to get himself back in the circle.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maggeh_Insanity View Post
    Kakashi is MUCH faster than Asuma. He managed to evade all of Hidan's attacks while dodging Kakuzu's masked shadows at the same time. If it was a one-on-one, I'd say there's a safe chance that Kakashi could run circles around Hidan anytime. Of course, then again, there's the fact that Kakashi knew what Hidan was capable of that time around, and wasn't caught unawares like Asuma.
    The word you are looking for isn't speed, it is sharingan. Hidan even mentions this is why Kakashi managed to dodge their attacks. That would give him a slight advantage but doesn't help him in the speed department. It also is responsible for Kakashi's low stamina which would be very detrimental against someone who can absorb so much damage.

    I agree with you that Kakuzu is stronger as he has the crazy jutsu we see now and is more aware, he just isn't quite as durable as his partner.

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    Tobi is also on the all-star team...

 

 
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