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    Terasiel is offline Senior Member Community Builder
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    Speaking of pulling things out of the bottomless pit of seating, explaining dual/multiple elemetal bloodline types does pose a bit of a problem if they really push this elemental thing any further.

    It's gonna suck if his dogs all happen to be Earth Elemental and therefore can take on any water type. ... oh wait.

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    Talamare is offline Senior Member Always Around
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    anyone ever consider that dual element may just be neutral?

    1x dmg to all

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    fansory is offline Junior Member Newbie
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    i believe above all u just have to count on how many chakra they posses.elemental effect only add an advantage.
    there still other thing u have to consider like ninjutsu,taijutsu or genjutsu style.based on elemental strength only didnt mean u can beat entirely.see wat happen to the fight between kakashi n kakuzu.n when naruto beat haku he still didnt have any elemental speciality.so just keep in ur mind elemental effect only an advantage(which mean it do more damage than normal) not to the extend u can decide the result already.

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    Talamare is offline Senior Member Always Around
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    Advantage is still relative

    Like someone stated

    A fire Jutsu with 1000 power
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    A water Jutsu with 500 power

    Water > Fire Element wise so it gets a 1.5x boost

    1000vs750, Fire still wins

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    ^ Yeah, 334, pg 12 basically proves it:

    Quote Originally Posted by Winterlion; HisshouBuraiKen; Brucelee; p1noypr1de
    Meaning, if you clash a Futon jutsu of the same level against Sasuke’s Katon jutsu, it will come back at you as an even larger Katon.
    So if you countered Sasuke's fire jutsu with a wind jutsu of the same strength, you'd only make the fire stronger.
    So if Sasuke has a katon jutsu that is the same level as your futon jutsu and the two collide...it'll just be parried at you as one huge katon.
    In other words, if you try to beat Sasuke's katon jutsu with a fuuton jutsu of the same level, it will only backfire at you with a bigger katon jutsu.


    "Levels" would be pretty irrelevant if the elements automatically determined what happens.

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    as haku has stated before during the match between sasuke and him, it would probably need a more intensified fire justu to melt his ice demonic mirrors.
    so fire can possibly beat ice.

    however, the best way to fight against bloodlines is probably by another kind of jutsu they should be weak in since bloodline limits have different abilities . e.g. neji/kimimaro are taijutsu people , itachi is usually genjutsu, haku is a ninjutsu person . (:

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    Unless adonai, for example..

    Shukaku's (Ichibi) Air Ball VS Sasuke Katon Gokakyuu.

    We can assume that the air ball not only would dissipate the fire, but hit Sasuke..

    Power does get thrown into the equation.

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    ^ Seriously you really have a problem interpreting what someone else is saying.

    That's exactly what the translation was saying, (all four translations suggested that power levels do matter). And then there's the fact that I'm agreeing with Talamare...

    This is like that time we were discussing whether Kakashi used Amaterasu (we both said that he didn't but for some reason you thought I disagreed with you).
    Last edited by adonai; 12-09-2006 at 11:07 PM.

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    :/
    I dunno about the element thing making a big difference in how stuff happens in the naruto world, like if the blue, crackling stuff on kakishi's hand called "lightning blade" doesn't seem like electricity in the first place, what does?

    Like nothing really changed much, like when asuma called his knives "chakra blades" technically thats what they are, chakra knives that absorb different chakra types to amplify the effect of the knife.

    Chidori(lightning) beats gaara's sand everytime sasuke used it.

    And as far as bloodlines go wouldn't a mixed jutsu be sumthing like this?
    ex: mokuton is earth and water, earth is weak against lightning, water is somewhat neutral.(i'd say it loses to lightning) So when sasuke used weird chidori nagashi thingy on yamato his wood got destroyed cause its mainly weak against the electricty?

    Another ex:
    when sasuke fought haku didn't haku say something liek "a fire of this level can't melt my ice"
    So fire could work? but sasuke wasn't strong enough.

    I don't think i'd consider bloodline limits really neautral, or "without weaknesses" like, If water beats fire, and adding wind to fire helps it, (common stuff)
    You'd think that wood loses to fire alot, ice gets beat by fire alot. And honestly, i can't say anything else considering no other element things have been shown. But i think that IF there are combinations of other elements, They will probably have similar weaknesses.

    so in the short form, i agree with talamare. Weakness comes into play but power still matters alot in the outcome of fire vs water, lightning vs earth,etc.

    EDIT: Blah too long
    Last edited by _zet_; 12-10-2006 at 03:21 AM. Reason: That looks so long T_T
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