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    krazykwasi is offline Senior Member Community Builder
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    ^^It is what it is. Yea i think we all know speculations when we see one. This forum is like manga AAA. A place where we can all get together and bring up questions, answers or an idea or two. It is what it is. And this is one of my fav manga forums.

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    ^^Does anyone happen to know if it was stated in the manga if the sharingan can tell the difference between the shadow clones and the real body. I've heard it been stated a couple times in this forum but when I went to reread, I didn't find where it was stated anywhere in the manga.

    Would suck because Sasuke would always know which was the real one when Naruto uses Kage Bunshin and just attack the original plus the byakugan couldn't tell the difference.

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    I can't remember if it was stated, but I'm pretty sure it's widely believed fact that they can't see through material clones (water, shadow, etc.). If it could, Kakashi wouldn't of bothered making water clones during his first fight with Itachi.

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    Hmm... I don't know if Sharinggan could do that but if it really did then Sasuke wouldn't have had a hard time fighting naruto (or maybe he's sharinggan then was too weak) in their battle before (their final battle when they were still kids). If it's about Itachi, it's kind of hard telling whether what you faced was a shadow clone or a genjutsu because his clone techniques and illusion techniques are all quite high leveled so I'm not sure. If I had to realy give an answer between yes or no I'd give a no because currently I've seen no such evidence that they could. But who knows, with sasuke's current eye level he maybe able to. And there's also that factor about Madara's sharinggan which we are oblivious about its capabilities.

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    Thanks for the info

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    Here's a question; in the latest spoilers Pein's dissected body seems to have woken up(isn't that the one saying "Let there be pain in this world."?) That would mean he now has seven bodies. Can anyone explain that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Witcher View Post
    Here's a question; in the latest spoilers Pein's dissected body seems to have woken up(isn't that the one saying "Let there be pain in this world."?) That would mean he now has seven bodies. Can anyone explain that?
    Yeah, sure. Six plus one equals seven. lol.

    Just kidding. How much do really know about Pein's abilities or how they work? I assumed that the six bodies were ones that he had specifically chosen for their abilities, rather than it being the limit of number of bodies that he could control.

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    Sharingan can NOT see through shadow clones. What many people fail to realize is that when shadow clones appear, they appear as the exact original...hence a clone. Mind, Body and soul as well as chakra. Shadow clones can bleed as well before they puff out of existence.

    If the all seeing eye that is Byakuyan....how the fck do you spell that again?! anyway, if that can't see through the real shadow clones to the original then there is no way in hell the Sharingan can see through it. That is the biggest advantage Naruto has over Sasuke and every other ninja. He has a technique that is virtually unstoppable and again, many people fail to realize this.

    Not only that, but Naruto is basically a one man army. He can learn anything that would take even a genius years to a matter of weeks. Not only that, but the original gets all the experiance and power that the shadow clones learned before they exit out of existence.

    And again, what many people fail to realize is that, when Kakashi asked naruto if he knew the secret of the shadow clones, Naruto didn't know. But the thing is, what Naruto fail to realize and what the fans fail to realize is that Naruto has been absorbing all the knowledge and experiance the shadow clones learned since 12, seeing as he has been using the technique since 12. Naruto just didn't know that he was absorbing the information until he actually realized it from Kakashi. And it is impossible to stop the flow of information that transmit back to his brain because then, you would have to turn it off and on again. And tell me i am wrong? Anyone. I dare you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldmagic View Post
    And again, what many people fail to realize is that, when Kakashi asked naruto if he knew the secret of the shadow clones, Naruto didn't know. But the thing is, what Naruto fail to realize and what the fans fail to realize is that Naruto has been absorbing all the knowledge and experiance the shadow clones learned since 12, seeing as he has been using the technique since 12. Naruto just didn't know that he was absorbing the information until he actually realized it from Kakashi. And it is impossible to stop the flow of information that transmit back to his brain because then, you would have to turn it off and on again. And tell me i am wrong? Anyone. I dare you.
    Well u are right, although most of the stuff you said is already a known fact but in this place its never hurts to repeat. so kudos.

    However one thing you said just popped a light bulb in my head. U mentioned that naruto's been doing the technique since 12. True no arguement there. But whats puzzling is didn't kakashi tell naruto during training that anytime he makes alotta clones and makes them all go *poof* at the end, to collect the info learned by the other clones, the rush of info into the brain is literally too much for the human mind cause it puts strain on it, which in turm makes him faint? Its happened to him twice during training with kakashi. He always fainted at the end. Ok that makes sense cause i mean info from 100+ clones is alot. But hasn't naruto been doing this technique for a while now in the multitude? Why has he never fainted back then when he made alot and had them all wiped out in one swoop? Yea it took him 2 1/2 years to figure out that he gets info from them but wouldn't he have felt fatigued after he made his typical 100+ clones and rushes somebody strong who kills em all?? Like when he fought sasuke on the hospital roof that one time. I remembered sasuke burn quite a couple of his clones with no apparent effect to naruto what so ever. Or when he fought Gaara and made about 1000 clones then gaara turned into shukaku and blew em all away?

    If naruto dies its should be from an enlarged brain tumor. That training, as effective as it is, should be a problem as it is. He could damage his brain dramatically. Then he'd really be naruto the special ed kid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by krazykwasi View Post
    Well u are right, although most of the stuff you said is already a known fact but in this place its never hurts to repeat. so kudos.

    However one thing you said just popped a light bulb in my head. U mentioned that naruto's been doing the technique since 12. True no arguement there. But whats puzzling is didn't kakashi tell naruto during training that anytime he makes alotta clones and makes them all go *poof* at the end, to collect the info learned by the other clones, the rush of info into the brain is literally too much for the human mind cause it puts strain on it, which in turm makes him faint? Its happened to him twice during training with kakashi. He always fainted at the end. Ok that makes sense cause i mean info from 100+ clones is alot. But hasn't naruto been doing this technique for a while now in the multitude? Why has he never fainted back then when he made alot and had them all wiped out in one swoop? Yea it took him 2 1/2 years to figure out that he gets info from them but wouldn't he have felt fatigued after he made his typical 100+ clones and rushes somebody strong who kills em all?? Like when he fought sasuke on the hospital roof that one time. I remembered sasuke burn quite a couple of his clones with no apparent effect to naruto what so ever. Or when he fought Gaara and made about 1000 clones then gaara turned into shukaku and blew em all away?

    If naruto dies its should be from an enlarged brain tumor. That training, as effective as it is, should be a problem as it is. He could damage his brain dramatically. Then he'd really be naruto the special ed kid.
    While he may have doing this for years, before Kakashi told naruto about the shadow clones, he always assumed Naruto knew of it. Then when he realized that naruto didn't know the secrets of shadow clones, he made an example to show him the true strength of the technique.

    As for Naruto doing this for years, probably because of adrenaline. That could be the only cause, or the only explanation to his failure to notice such a change. Basically, every time he uses the shadow clones is when he is in a major fight. The blood pressure is rising, adrenaline pumping like a jackhammer, the sheer focus and determination Naruto has when he fights battles. That could be the only cause. And when he actually started training with the shadow clones to there full effects, that was when he realized the secrets behind the shadow clones. Kakashi was very surprised when he realized Naruto didn't know, which is mind boggling, really. You should check out that chapter....jeezus...how do i remember this shit.

 

 

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