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    DarkSideO988 is offline Junior Member Newbie
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    But lets not forget that the training doesn't only give him a new jutsu but also increase his technique. It probaly adds to his power, increases his skill, improves his chakra control and minipulation. It most likely increases his speed and naurto has yet to be in a fight where he shows off what he learned, all of the fights have been inturupted by the nine tails, and we have never seen naruto fight to kill, in the fight between sasuke and naruto, i personally think that sasuke would have lost if naruto would have tried to kill him instead of putting a mark on his head protector.....I mean look at the damage of the indirect rasangan that was inflicted on sasuke.

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    Tsukumaru is offline Senior Member Respected Member
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    Quote Originally Posted by wole View Post
    well i never seen the lack of speed on narutos part. in the battle between him an sasuke he was extremely fast that at on point sasuke could not keep up. naruto has speed, him and sasuke are equals some may disagree due to the most resent meeting between the two but one must understand that naruto was not serious in that encounter but some byes people wont want to acknowledge that and will rather hang on sasuke's !@#!s.

    Sasuke's speed must be greater than that of when Naruto last fought with him.

    Sasuke is fast, as shown by their last encounter, and he also has the sharigan, which enhance his reaction speed.

    By the way, Sasuke wasn't using his full strength at the last encounter with Naruto and he was still too fast for Naruto to follow his movement. And remember, other than the new and improved chidori, Sasuke still has that secret jutsu Orochimaru stopped him from using, but that's going off-topic.

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    mystic_guard_sinoel is offline Senior Member Community Builder
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    Yondaime's jutsu (the one where he moves really fast) could be the jutsu that Jiraiya forbid Naruto from using. Knowing Naruto's stubborn nature he would try to use it anyways and end up hurting himself in the process. Also it will be a while before they fight again so Naruto will probably be able to come up with something.


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    The fact is that this "new jutsu" is not gonna help at all it's just there to fill a couple of chapters and then when he tries against Sauske it will cause the 9-tails to awaken. At witch point they will fill another couple of chapters of him trying to control the 9-tails. Then somthing else will happen and then I will blow my brains out than some more stuff will happen then the show will end with us seeing this "new Jutsu" once in the final battle.

    You can say I don't care BUT to say I don't care anymore is wrong I just don't care to care to give a rats ass about a damn thing.

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    I think you're treating "speed" too much as if it were an RPG stat -- that is, producing a formulaic and consistent result.

    For the purposes of combat, overall speed would have to be broken down into at least three components: awareness (recognize what's going on), reaction/reflex (decide how to act), and actual physical speed (act).

    Regardless of training, the first two will have significant variability, and the latter can vary over the course of a fight due to injuries and fatigue.

    On average, Sasuke is clearly faster than Naruto. This has always been the case, and will most probably always be the case. It's almost built into their character designs.

    Nonetheless, Naruto has proven that he can be circumstantially faster than Sasuke. Though he's clearly at a disadvantage, he's never been completely overshadowed by Sasuke, and has always been able to fight back with at least some efficacy, albeit usually not enough.

    At least, this is how I see it.


    Anyway. Countering speed. Since Naruto's early improvisational inspirations (vs. Zabuza, Kiba, Neji) increasingly give the appearance of being flukes, we can rule out a tactical approach, and considering Naruto's character, improving his own speed is also unlikely.

    Thus we look to a jutsu-based remedy, la Gaara.

    What I wonder, though, is why the Powers that Be have such faith in what would otherwise appear to be a gimmicky and unreliable approach. Presumably they have no idea what will happen when combining wind nature and the rasengan form, yet Kakashi/Yamato are going to great lengths to see it happen, and Tsunade/Shizune consider it to be a deal-breaker as regards Naruto's usefulness.

    Hrm... come to think of it, I haven't clearly addressed the topic, eh?
    This isn't a "let's face it, it's an anime" kind of thing.
    Actually, it kind of is. Not insofar as a person being able to compete with someone perceived as being faster, but rather in that it isn't particularly important that Naruto be faster than Sasuke.

    Provided Naruto can occasionally hit his opponent, narrative convenience can and most likely will take over from there (i.e. the ridiculous come-from-behind-one-hit-victory).

    *sighs*

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    Well, even if Naruto were faster then sasuke, he would still lose.
    In the kyubi-mode Naruto vs hax-sasuke fight we clearly saw that because of the sharingan narutos godlike speed was countered like nothing.
    But back to topic:
    Narutos training was surely also to control his Bushin control, u see, have u ever seeen Narutos bushins usin a jutsu?(except of Henge)
    I think that after this fight its perhaps doable.
    I also could beat the crap out of Naruto cuz he doesnt use his bushins constantilly, u know, he could at least Have 2 bushins constantilly released, so that there were 3 Narutos.
    ---->Faster gathering of experience,more safety, and it looks cooler
    With Narutos mass chakra he could do that easily...

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    what if the new wind jutsu sucks the enemy in like a vacuum, an area effect jutsu that pushes everything in the surounding towards naruto, that way he doesn't need fast speed.

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    If the jutsu isn't something that Naruto simply thrusts at the opponent like Rasengan, then it just might have some sort of special effect on the user- something to the counter or cancel Sasuke's bootleg speed (I say bootleg because he's been popping "steriods").
    Last edited by HFreeman; 11-20-2006 at 11:11 PM.

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    offense is best defense X)

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    Naruto's wind Jutsu will turn into a Hadouken spam, but it splits in all directions, making it impossible for Sasuke to fully dodge.

 

 
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