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    famousmako is offline Senior Member Regular
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    Talamare, Hiashi and Hizashi were both sons of the previous head family member, right? But Hizashi, being the younger one, became the a BRANCH. Now let's forget about that.

    Hinata and Hanabi are both daughters of the current head family member, right? Now wouldn't the same thing apply to Hizashi too since he and Hanabi were born second?

    I don't think Hyuuga Hiashi could just change his mind about it. The laws and ways of the Hyuuga are absolute aren't they? Why else would Neji be so angry with them at first?

    Feanor has a good point on the Shikamaru thing. That could be it.
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    Shikamaru was prepared for the impact. It isn't that he didn't feel it, it's that he was already braced for it so he didn't get knocked out by it. His opponent had no idea it was coming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by famousmako View Post
    Talamare, Hiashi and Hizashi were both sons of the previous head family member, right? But Hizashi, being the younger one, became the a BRANCH. Now let's forget about that.

    Hinata and Hanabi are both daughters of the current head family member, right? Now wouldn't the same thing apply to Hizashi too since he and Hanabi were born second?

    I don't think Hyuuga Hiashi could just change his mind about it. The laws and ways of the Hyuuga are absolute aren't they? Why else would Neji be so angry with them at first?

    Feanor has a good point on the Shikamaru thing. That could be it.

    I take it you were watching last night's marathon which is why you have these questions XD. But if you were listening carefully, the whole Hyuuga tradition/feud explaination implies that the first born becomes heir. Hiashi and Hizashi were twins, but Hiashi came out first, so he became the heir to the family name and secret techniques. Hinata and Hanabi are 5 years apart, so Hinata, without question or conflict, is the heir. Therefore there isn't any need to curse Hanabi, since its clear that there shouldn't be any conflict or objections between Hinata (the ruler) and her 5 year younger sister Hanabi (the ruled-over).
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    Feanor's point makes the most sense to me as far as Shikamaru goes.

    Quote Originally Posted by HFreeman View Post
    Hinata and Hanabi are 5 years apart, so Hinata, without question or conflict, is the heir. Therefore there isn't any need to curse Hanabi, since its clear that there shouldn't be any conflict or objections between Hinata (the ruler) and her 5 year younger sister Hanabi (the ruled-over).
    I was under the impression that everyone in the branch family had the curse. Like Neji. It doesn't have anything to do with succession, it has to do with keeping the branch family in line and protecting the bloodline.

    As for Hiashi and Hizashi, I always sort of assumed that whoever the previous head of the branch family was, they didn't have children. And so they needed a new head, and chose to take the second born from the main family. It's not needed in the case of Hinata and Hanabi, since Neji is around. (But this is pure guesswork, I don't think it's ever stated.)

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    Thats what Im saying. It was probably clear that Hiashi and Hizashi would fight over the whole issue because one was born minutes after the other, hence cursing the future ruler's opposer(s). For Hinata and Hanabi, Hanabi shouldn't have a problem with Hinata being the heir since she clearly acknowledges that she was born five years later, and most likely respects Hinata. Its a complicated issue to explain I'd admit, but I do understand that its to remind opposers that they should know their place in this family-hierarchy.
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    I was thinking basically the exact same thing.

    Twins probably form an exception to the rules.

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    I think it was just a special case for the 2 brothers

    or perhaps its the first born MALE
    and the 2nd born MALE goes to a branch

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    Since they're both girls, it probably doesn't apply until they got married. The reason there are two branches is because there are two families involved, but if neither of the daughter get married then there is only one family.

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    You don't need to shove every new Hyuuga into the branch family just because Hiashi already has one daughter. When someone gets put in the branch family, like Hizashi, then all their children get the seal. But that doesn't mean that Hiashi can only have one child in the main family. What if something happened to Hinata? Entrusting the clan's future in one person isn't very smart.

    If things stay the same, a time will probably come where they start a new branch family, maybe with one of the children of the next clan leader (whoever that turns out to be).

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    How could Hanabi be a branch family when she is the Heir of the Hyuuga clan??


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