11-12-2006, 04:49 AM
guess thats why kakashi wears his mask.......
Originally Posted by talamare
11-12-2006, 05:25 AM
he said that hes specialized in locating the enemy.. even just with the smell.. remmber? that time he was at sand village.. and kankurou was hurt..
but he used pakkun to do the thing... i dont thing is him doing the sniffing... so about the fart.. maybe pakkun would go coma...
11-12-2006, 08:07 AM
we cant actually say for sure that naruto learned nothing over the time jumps because weve never seen him in an all out fight. that encounter with sasuke ended quickly because sasuke didnt hold anything back, he went in with intent to kill and finish the job quickly. naruto was stunned by seeing sasuke for the first time in a long time and wasnt able to react to sasuke's attack. from that little game with kakashi and sakura, it is apparent that naruto did improve over the time jump and from the encounters with the akatsuki, that he does have some secret jutsu that hasnt been revealed yet.
Originally Posted by pongy
and what does naruto's progress have anything to do with other people's progress. ino and chouji have nothing to do with naruto, so why do they have to learn nothing if naruto learned nothing?
and ok, so even if shikamaru is on par with kakashi's intelligence or slightly less, that is still quite a feat in and of itself, and still means he is smart enough to learn something like kagebunshin easily.
and team 10 doesnt have to know where the akatsuki hideout is to find hidan. shikamaru can determine where he would be from their attack location patterns, i.e what bijuu they are going for next, what country they'll be in, or what high money bounty nin they are going to attack next. hidan doesnt always stay in the hideout.
and that is interesting with the kurenai thing. i think ill have to agree with you on that one. but there could also be a situation where team 10 attacks hidan, and chouji and ino are disabled, and its shikamaru alone, then kurenai comes outta nowhere and both shikamaru and kurenai kill hidan.
11-12-2006, 09:54 AM
Naruto vs Orochimaru, He was going all out, thats what he learned from Jiraiya, going 4 tail
Originally Posted by numelin
maybe a little more?
Originally Posted by numelin
11-12-2006, 10:43 AM
well we really didn't see what he learned. and don't forget the fact that he was already wounded when he met sasuke. I remember he even couldn't stand still and sai offered him to rest a little. and he was wounded because of 4 tails. there were just little hints of his progression when he first met chiyo and deflected and countered her attack.-which was kinda cool because while the others including kakashi didn't have the time to counter the attack, he not only stopped it also created a bunshin in no time at all and attacked with the bunshin. we can say he is now a really faster jutsu user safely. the real problem is whenever the mangaka wants to show that someone is strong(sai sasuke sakura anybody) it's always naruto he uses as the dumbest decoy. and we are all like wow he's cool and naruto is dumb. i like kishimoto but he doesn't have to make naruto look like a dumbass everytime he's introducing someone or something new
11-12-2006, 11:04 AM
jiraiya never taught naruto to release the 4th tail. the tails are released when naruto is in a state of rage and they are gradually increasing 1 tail at a time. the only part jiraiya had in naruto's tail form, was almost getting killed by the 4 tail naruto. naruto would never intentionally release the 4th tail or higher because at 4 tails or higher, he loses all control and the kyuubi takes over his consciousness and in this state he could potentially kill or harm friends. which is why he would never want to release the tails intentionally.
the reason he fought orochimaru as a 4 tail was because kabuto and orochimaru taunted him to the point of intense rage using sasuke to do so. and even if u say that he fought orochimaru at full strength using the 4 tail, that still isnt naruto. that is the kyuubi fighting. when i say we havent seen naruto in an all out fight, i mean him using all of his skill, jutsus, and strategy in a fight with 1 opponent, such as the naruto and sasuke fight in that big valley area, before naruto went 1 tail and sasuke went curse lvl 2.
edit: and i noticed during the fight with sasuke and naruto/yamato. that sasuke said his sword is the kusanagi. was wondering if this was true or not because it looks nothing like the kusanagi of orochimaru, and wouldnt it still be in orochimarus stomache and not with sasuke?
Last edited by numelin; 11-12-2006 at 11:38 AM.
11-12-2006, 11:53 AM
always when Jiraiya was training Naruto he kept telling Naruto to keep tapping into the 9 tail, and naruto could barely do it at will, now he can go demi naruto at will and it doesnt take much for him to keep transforming after that
the 1st time naruto went 4th tail and lost control was when he nearly killed jiraiya, now he doesnt want to release it intentionally, but before he or at least jiraiya did
he called it Kusanagi
but it isnt "The Kusanagi"
its a plain hiltless sword, that when he infuses it with lightning it becomes hard to break
but its not Orochimaru Diamond cutter Kusanagi
Last edited by Talamare; 11-12-2006 at 11:55 AM.
11-12-2006, 12:46 PM
yes. that's true.
oh, and we know what team 10 is going to do:
remember how asuma kept talking about the "king" and all of that crap?
they're gonna go on a mission related to that.
11-12-2006, 07:01 PM
Interesting thoughts on the Chapter Thread.
Someone mentioned that Shikamaru use Asuma's knives as a projection of his shadow jutsu. I liked that idea it was great, mostly because it could work. Possibly as its own attack but also as a fluke. As we know, Shika uses the "First move is always a fluke" strategy. If he uses those knives there will be a shadow as they are throwing, depending if they hit the target or not Shika could extend his jutsu following the direction of the knives being thrown, nearly thin or thread like (like he has done before in the chunnin exam). Then again if it doesn't hit its target, there is always a second thought that he could use the knives as distraction. *This was just a random thinking*
11-12-2006, 07:21 PM
just another thought on the chakra knives. he doesnt necessarily have to use the knives for a diversion. he can probably throw a shower of kunais in the general direction of his opponent, and depending on the opponent, they would either deflect all of them in which case he would just catch the opponent with the projected shadow within the kunai shadows, or if the opponent dodges he could catch him in a trap, say an extra kunai thrown overhead or one that completely misses, but the kunai shadow passes through him.