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    Feanor is offline Senior Member Always Around
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    I like this theory. Because it could mean one thing.
    Up till now it appeared to me that the manga will end after Oro and Akatsuki are defeated.
    Because it would be very time consuming and cliche (Dbz wore it out, although i loved ssj 2&3) to introduce another villain which is stronger than those before him.

    But not if he was already introduced.
    Madara/Itachi could rise up to it and may be using Akatsuki all this time. Who knows.

    I'd like that theory to be true, because it'll mean the manga has to go on for a longer time. Without becoming a dbz clone in terms of bad guys (don't get me wrong I love db)
    "For Feanor was made the mightiest in all parts of body and mind, in valour, in endurance, in beauty, in understanding, in skill, in strength and subtlety alike, of all the Children of Illuvatar, and a bright flame was in him"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryoga-san
    I thought that Itachi meant skunk.
    Itachi means weasel, which is associated with death in Japanese mythology.

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    im certain that uchiha madara's dead/super old geezer. if kyuubi made contact wif uchiha madara, that would only happen before yondaime seal-ed the kyuubi, which is more than 10 years ago.

    besides, the annilation of uchiha clan is so well known, any uchiha will seek revenge for the clan and madara is no exception. so he's dead thus he cant take revenge. btw sasuke's regarded as the sole survivor and everybody said that.

    about the container.. i think itachi wanted to test his maximum capacity as an uchiha, he was disgusted by his own clan becus they didnt want to attain MS becus they need to kill their closest fren and so he became the first one to do it. i wouldnt say he's possessed. he's more of obsessed. and btw u guys really think a guy who likes to psycho people's mind (see how he abuses kakashi and sasuke) would become so easily possessed?

    anyway the 3 MS users are most likely obito (tobi), kakashi and itachi.
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    well that's my speculation. the fight between kakashi and the itachi clone.. itachi would have possibly realised that kakashi'd already devised MS. chap 257 page 9. kakashi knew that the weakness of MS and itachi was shocked and replied wif "impossible, you.." i think he's trying to say " impossible, you learn to obtain MS or you attained MS too?"


    kyuubi told sasuke not to kill naruto cos he would regret it. cos something bad might happen if he obtained MS.

    edited: "dont judge people by appearance" possibly means that itachi is telling ppl that on the surface, uchiha clan is regarded as top clan in konoha and an uchiha is destined to be a super-achiever BUT deep down, itachi regarded his clan as weak and gave up hope on his clan possibly cos he felt that no1 else wanted to obtain the maximum potential of sharingan because of the requirements
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    hee. uchiha itachi. he knew that there will ultimately be 3 people wielding MS. seems to me that he wants that 2 other people. im sure itachi knew there was people outside his clan that can obtain MS since he said he slayed everybody except his cute lil bro.

    anyway u might wanna read some1's theory.
    http://forums.narutofan.com/showthre...00#post4148900

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    He never said anything about having a 3 people were required to have the MS. He said that Sasuke could be the 3rd person to aquire the MS.

    But seeing how the story goes, Sasuke could still be the 4th person to aquire it since Kakashi has it now.

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    The time Itachi said the thing with three people having MS if Sasuke obtained it he was not talking about Kakashi to be the third person.
    There is no way.

    It was years before Kakshi got his Ms. Also it seems likely Kakshi has another form of Ms. Not the original.
    Since he didn't kill his best friend to obtain it.
    Obito who may have been his best friend for half a day before he died was not killed by Kakshi. And the feeling guilty for his death and so getting MS years after the original death isn't very plausible.
    And Maito Gai, who is most likely Kakshis best friend today is still alive.
    Maybe he delevoped or copied it after Itachi used it on him.
    Like Kakshi said all close to him are already dead, and Kakshi is the last guy that would kill his friends to get strenght.

    Also note this.
    Itachi is a very calm guy who nearly always keeps his temper and shows no facial expressions.
    But he was suprised if not shocked that Kakshi knew of his decreasing eyesight and Ms, and that Kakashi got it, too.

    If he knew years ago Kakshi would be able to obtain it, why would he be so suprised at that point.
    I doesn't make any sense.

    Neither Kakashi nor Obito can be the third user.

    Obito is dead.
    Yondaime showed up at the scene right away and we can assume he checked if Obito was dead.
    Also at that time, the whole Uchiha clan was alive.
    So why should someone go through the trouble of bringing him back if there are tons of Uchiha around. He wans't that talented of a nainja to be very important.

    And lastly Kakshi can't have his MS from the death of Oboto if he is still alive
    "For Feanor was made the mightiest in all parts of body and mind, in valour, in endurance, in beauty, in understanding, in skill, in strength and subtlety alike, of all the Children of Illuvatar, and a bright flame was in him"

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    Is it truly a requirement to kill your best friend?
    I mean what type of requirement is that.
    Is there a checklist of best friend things one must do?

    When someone says that to another to gain something its always because that person is testing you.

    something like
    Once youre willing to kill your best friend(or actually do it) then I will tell how you actually get it.

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    Or once you feel the pain/pressure of killing someone that close to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feanor
    Obito is dead.
    Yondaime showed up at the scene right away and we can assume he checked if Obito was dead.
    Why does everyone assume this? When has a major character died without a corpse? We get to see the corpse of Zabuza, Haku, the 3rd hokage, each of the sound 5, Gaara, and Sasori.
    Knowing Kishimoto (and the fate of the "rescue Sasuke" group), I doubt that any death will be definitive until we are shown the corpse.
    Especially considering the nature of the sharingan. If you think about it the sharingan differs from the byakugan in that it must be activated (both in order to obtain it and then for subsequent use). We know that the byakugan stays around after death, it is still active, because the branch family requires the cursed seal to seal away their eyes when they die. There's no reason to suspect that the sharingan can do the same thing, without being maintained by the user, the eyes just returns to normal. So a sharingan from a dead guy is pretty much useless.
    The fact that Kakashi can use the sharingan can be explained if Obito is still alive. If there is a sympathetic relationship between Obito and his severed eye, then he could be the one who is actually forcing Kakashi's sharingan to always remain in it's active state. This is suggested by the fact that Kakashi is seen crying from this left eye after receiving it from Obito. And also by the fact that Obito appears to be capable of seeing through the perspective of the left eye, telling Rin that Kakashi was okay even though there was no possible way he could have know that, unless he saw what was going on (and he obviously wasn't just trying to comfort her since he cared about her enough that he would have told her to run if he believed that the situation was dangerous).

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    He has been mentioned outside of Kakashi Gaiden numerous times, and basically what I meant to say was that the only people we thought were dead (but were not present as corpses) turned out to be alive.
    And what do think of the other parts of my theory?

 

 
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