Thread: Sylar from Heroes Vs Superman

It's funny that somebody is comparing superman and sylar,
I mean they're kind of the same, an emo/nerd with black glasses, emo hair, super powers. but I still say Sylar wins, as far as I know he doesn't have a weakness.

except he can still die but really, why make a poll with a super hero that got his ass kicked by every other super hero?

Originally Posted by Henchy432

Sylar 1337 99.85%
Superman 2 0.15%


Who jacked the poll?

Sylar is too leet! I knew it!

Depends on what Sylar we're talking about.

The Sylar we saw in Five Years Gone would wipe the floor with Superman.

The Sylar from the season finale (after killing Ted) would probably defeat Superman with relative ease.

Sylar before then? Who knows. Gabriel, at the beginning of his quest, with nothing but the power of "seeing how things work", would be defeated easily.

^ What could he do after killing Ted that he couldn't do before (and would actually help)?

Exploding or even selectively emitting certain types of radiation is not going to help, unless he somehow uses his power to emulate kryptonite (the radiation I mean), but that would seem a bit contrived.

One of the things is that a lot of their powers are exactly the same, except that Superman has them at a higher level of power, they both have freezing abilities, they both have enhanced hearing and memory, they both have radiation manipulation (though here Superman is more focused, while Sylar is more versatile), flight (they both seem capable of going supersonic, though Superman can also exit the atmosphere), and they both have telekinesis (yes, Superman does have telekinesis, he just never learned how to use it explicitly in most cases).

This means that Sylar in Five Years Gone would also have environmental manipulation (doubt it'll help with x-ray vision), regeneration (again, not really going to help, he can still die, or go into a death like state), phasing (this'll help a lot, but it depends on how long he can keep it up), and precognition (it's already been shown that this is a double edged sword, it doesn't show enough to be useful, and it's very easy to misinterpret what is seen).

In the end, Sylar just doesn't have anything that'll let him actually hurt Superman, except possibly phasing, and that requires physical contact, and isn't a power that's he's assured of having.

Originally Posted by adonai

^ What could he do after killing Ted that he couldn't do before (and would actually help)?

He gained the radiation power. He also had quite a bit more control over it than Ted...it's clear that he could use it as an offensive weapon. Also, if nothing else, he could simply detonate "the bomb" and take Supes down that way.

Originally Posted by adonai

Exploding or even selectively emitting certain types of radiation is not going to help, unless he somehow uses his power to emulate kryptonite (the radiation I mean), but that would seem a bit contrived.

Considering how much damage Ted's power could do to normal people, I'm sure it could be used to damage Superman, particularly considering how much better Sylar is at using it.

Originally Posted by adonai

One of the things is that a lot of their powers are exactly the same, except that Superman has them at a higher level of power, they both have freezing abilities, they both have enhanced hearing and memory, they both have radiation manipulation (though here Superman is more focused, while Sylar is more versatile), flight (they both seem capable of going supersonic, though Superman can also exit the atmosphere), and they both have telekinesis (yes, Superman does have telekinesis, he just never learned how to use it explicitly in most cases).

Sylar is better at using his powers offensively, though. Can Superman slice the top of someone's head off with his telekinesis?

Originally Posted by adonai

This means that Sylar in Five Years Gone would also have environmental manipulation (doubt it'll help with x-ray vision), regeneration (again, not really going to help, he can still die, or go into a death like state), phasing (this'll help a lot, but it depends on how long he can keep it up), and precognition (it's already been shown that this is a double edged sword, it doesn't show enough to be useful, and it's very easy to misinterpret what is seen).

The Sylar in Five Years Gone has flight (whereas the Sylar of the finale was using telekinesis to levitate), as well. The combination of those powers would easily allow him to beat Superman.

Originally Posted by adonai

In the end, Sylar just doesn't have anything that'll let him actually hurt Superman, except possibly phasing, and that requires physical contact, and isn't a power that's he's assured of having.

I think he easily has enough. The regeneration is a serious killer, and he can just "appear" to be Lois or someone, get close to Superman, and stick his hand through his head.

^

in Five Years Gone, he also has the ability to create illusions (though it would probably be dispelled by X-ray i guess ?). not to mention he has *some* sort of teleportation (re: breaking into FBI to find molly, sneaking up on enhanced-hearing lady, getting to kirby plaza at some extreme - possibly instant - speed).

Originally Posted by coolerimmortal

He gained the radiation power. He also had quite a bit more control over it than Ted...it's clear that he could use it as an offensive weapon. Also, if nothing else, he could simply detonate "the bomb" and take Supes down that way.

Considering how much damage Ted's power could do to normal people, I'm sure it could be used to damage Superman, particularly considering how much better Sylar is at using it.


That's just not going to kill him.



Sylar is better at using his powers offensively, though. Can Superman slice the top of someone's head off with his telekinesis?

And the reason that only phasing could possibly work at all is that Superman's invulnerability isn't biological, not directly at least, he creates a forcefield that surrounds his entire body (subconsciously of course, he can't extend the field) how do you think he survives nuclear explosions with his cloths intact?


The Sylar in Five Years Gone has flight (whereas the Sylar of the finale was using telekinesis to levitate), as well. The combination of those powers would easily allow him to beat Superman.

I mentioned fight already as one of the powers that they both had, it's not an offensive power though, I don't really see either of them just running away from each other all the time, and even then superman can always leave him behind by going into space.

I think he easily has enough. The regeneration is a serious killer, and he can just "appear" to be Lois or someone, get close to Superman, and stick his hand through his head.

The environmental manipulation and phasing is dangerous, but like I said already, they both have extremely sharp senses (though Superman has better), deception is only going to go so far, and it's not clear how phasing will interact with Superman's telekinesis (which is completely passive but very strong).

In my opinion, it all depends on whether Sylar has a power that can actually hurt Superman, which in this case, may be DL's phasing ability.

My response in bold.

Actually, if this is a battle were it's just Superman vs Sylar and Superman didnt care about killing people then I think he would win. with the powers that he does have at his peek and the powers that Sylar has at his peek with the intent to kill Superman I dont see how Sylar could win.

Originally Posted by coolerimmortal

He gained the radiation power. He also had quite a bit more control over it than Ted...it's clear that he could use it as an offensive weapon. Also, if nothing else, he could simply detonate "the bomb" and take Supes down that way.

like saizou example

Originally Posted by Saizou

Of course, high-end Superman is immune to Kryptonite as well.

the only advantage Sylar would really have is if he knew about kyrptonite or knew magic because those were the only 2 things that Superman is weak against, but since it's High-end Superman this would also take away the onlyadvantage Sylar has.

Originally Posted by coolerimmortal

Considering how much damage Ted's power could do to normal people, I'm sure it could be used to damage Superman, particularly considering how much better Sylar is at using it.

From what i remember, superman can get hit by whole worlds and still come out okay, damaged but okay.

Originally Posted by coolerimmortal

Sylar is better at using his powers offensively, though. Can Superman slice the top of someone's head off with his telekinesis?

Im not 100% sure if telekinesis is really effective on superman or not, but i remember he has been able to defeat a lot of them.

Originally Posted by coolerimmortal

I think he easily has enough. The regeneration is a serious killer, and he can just "appear" to be Lois or someone, get close to Superman, and stick his hand through his head.

Unless Sylar can regenerate from laser beams that could destroy worlds I'd say sure. if it was a battle to purely win, turning into Lois would do nothing and I dont think he would get the chance to stick his hand through Supermans head since he is, or was able to go fast enough to leap through universes.

But in general, it depends on which Superman Sylar is fighting IMO cause the one now would maybe win with a hard time or loose depending on certain circumstances.

hmm you know, i don't really think sylar would have an effect on superman, cuz superman only get affected when there's kryptonite around and since theres none with sylar i think if wont be a problem for him, so therefore i think superman wouldbe the victor! ^__^
well thats my logic anyway