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    Dante Obscuri is offline Senior Member Community Builder
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    Quote Originally Posted by KyokushiNanaya View Post
    In zero no tsukaima Saito has already confessed to Louise
    Not out of his own free will, at the very least. But those are spoilers from the novels; so, I'll leave it like that. :P


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    "Biitchy" and "Devotion" is relative. For me, using lewd ways to get someone now THAT'S bitchy, and if I'm going to add another word to my dictionary I'd call that a Siesta. Now devotion is something deeper, it means conditioning your mind for something or someone and to be fixated for their welfare or to achieving whatver you want, yes a way that may be Siesta but that doesn't make her a good character either. She's the more BITCHY of the two examples you raised. For crying out loud she even used love potions which for me is the ultimate form of patheticness ever. If she truly loved Saito she should just act on how she was when Saito liked her before anyway, and not being the fucked up bastard she is now. Consider this, a girl who loves someone and gets jealous over everything is more acceptable than a girl who uses stupid magic spells and potions that she can't even get right and only looks like a home wrecker. It's a fact that Louise hasn't matured to the level where she could trust Saito enough to not get jealous when she sees him with other women but she's still more decent than that damsel in distress, which I believe suits Siesta the best because all she has been was a liability.

    About you dante, though, you can't judge if it was not out of his free will. Especially if you re-watch season two in the boat scene. But if you would elaborate then maybe we can put it up as a topic for debate. If we're going to put up examples and go through this in the context of him not going to his own world for louise, fighting an army for louise and such then it would be nice if you can punch holes through those.
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    No, it's something related to his role a Louise's familiar.


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    Hmm... since I haven't really read the novel anything I'd say would clash because I stand with the context of the anime. However, regardless if he was or wasn't Louise's familiar he could have still gone back to his own world in season 1. Then in season 3 when Louise lost her void powers, which according to them also probably affected their contract, Saito still felt the same way. If you're saying however that what he feels for Louise is just there because he's Louise's familiar then that's different. It would be nice if you can put up a link to a reference of that idea. Whatever though, the feelings they shared up to now in the anime is real, and the anime is what we've been debating on right now anyway.

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    Now now, Siesta was forced to use a love potion, she did not decide to of her own will, nor did she even go through with it.
    I bet if Louise was given a bottle, she'd downright use it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ApocalypticARK View Post
    Now now, Siesta was forced to use a love potion, she did not decide to of her own will, nor did she even go through with it.
    I bet if Louise was given a bottle, she'd downright use it.
    Ah, but it was her who let it happen anyway. She could have turned down that gay jabroney but she didn't did she? Besides it's not the first time Siesta used potons. Remember in season 2 she actually used a potion to try to put saito to sleep so Saito could live but it back fired and it was Louise who benefited from that, hey what do you know, I guess that's the time when she was the most useful, then again that wasn't also her intention. I'm not taking Nanaya's side though I just didn't like the potion stuff :P
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    It's called being considerate of others who are trying to help you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hinagikukatsura View Post
    Ah, but it was her who let it happen anyway. She could have turned down that gay jabroney but she didn't did she? Besides it's not the first time Siesta used potons. Remember in season 2 she actually used a potion to try to put saito to sleep so Saito could live but it back fired and it was Louise who benefited from that, hey what do you know, I guess that's the time when she was the most useful, then again that wasn't also her intention. I'm not taking Nanaya's side though I just didn't like the potion stuff :P
    My sentiments exactly. About the part if Louise would use that well I can't be the judge of that. That's your opinion but I don't think she would anyway. She maybe a jealous whiny girl but I don't think she's a Siesta. Most annoying thing I've seen her done was that mask thing on season 2. Never happened again though.

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    wahhh I could never win in a debate >.< like I said I'm going neutral now... I'm just stating opinions on what I don't like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ApocalypticARK View Post
    It's called being considerate of others who are trying to help you.
    What part? That was a little vague. Helping who?

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