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    hinagikukatsura is offline Senior Member Respected Member
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    Default Shiki V.S. Shirou

    I found myself comparing Fate and Tsukihime and since I ran into a doujin named T-Moon Complex X where the two groups meet in a complex storyline I wondered who would win in a battle between the two main characters.

    Shiki Nanaya
    1. Death Eyes (Kills pretty much everything including nature and reality marbles)
    2. Nanaya Blood

    Shirou Emiya
    1. Gradiation Mage Craft
    2. Reality Marbles (Unlimited Blade works)
    3. A possibile Avalon maybe?

    In a match I think Shiki has the upper hand does he not?

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    Who would win in a fight guys Goku or Naruto????? Goku is really strong i know but Naruto is so sugoi and the Kyuubi ( that's Japanese for nine-tailed-fox ^_^) is the strongest thing in that universe and it's chakura is unlimited!!!!!!!!! so i think Uzumaki Naruto (that's how the Japanese write Naruto Uzumaki ^_^) would defenitly win

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    and that answers my question how?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hinagikukatsura View Post
    I found myself comparing Fate and Tsukihime and since I ran into a doujin named T-Moon Complex X where the two groups meet in a complex storyline I wondered who would win in a battle between the two main characters.

    Shiki Nanaya
    1. Death Eyes (Kills pretty much everything including nature and reality marbles)
    2. Nanaya Blood

    Shirou Emiya
    1. Gradiation Mage Craft
    2. Reality Marbles (Unlimited Blade works)
    3. A possibile Avalon maybe?

    In a match I think Shiki has the upper hand does he not?
    In the game, Shikis abilities are more or less the same in the end of every route (only his understanding of them varies, but becouse he uses them instinctively anyway it doesnt matters that much) but in Shirous case, his abilities differs considerably from route to route. Also remember that Shiki can trigger his Nanaya blood only against supernatural foes so there is not a great chance he would be able to use it against Shirou

    So anyway the outcome depends on which route Shirou are we speaking (also some spoilers)

    Fate Shirou vs Shiki: Shiki slaughters Shirou if he gets into Nanaya Blood, and has advantage against him even when he doesnt. In this route Shirou was pretty much only glorified cheerleader and handy Deus Ex Machina, without any real combat experience. He also doesnt really know how to use his projection magic, he doesnt know he has a reality marble and he doesnt have Avalon. He is pretty much toast.

    Unlimited Blade Works Shirou vs Shiki: Shirou has overbearing advantage against Shiki, and will win, probably even when Shiki manages to trigger his Nanaya Blood. Shirou has plenty combat experience in this one, he was able to stand and defend succesfully against several servants or servant-level opponents, each of them being at least on the same level as Nanaya Shiki if not completly surprasing him. He adopted Archers battle style, he is able to effectively use his projection magic and can use it to enchance his skill in meele combat, he can use his reality marble, and most of the things he can summon as a weapon has far wider reach than Shikis knife. Shiki has still a real chance of winning, but most of the advantages has Shirou.

    Heavens Feel Shirou vs Shiki: I didnt played Heavens Feel route yet, but if the things I heard about Shirou in this one are true, Shiki ends splattered on the floor with no ifs or maybes.


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    @jamie: *splorts coffee over screen*


    And for your next trick, will you prove the Borg can pwn the Death Star? (I suppose that's better than explaining what happens when girl!Ranma gets pregnant.)
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    @Jaimie: LMAO, for real? You made my day... ROFL

    Now who would win in a fight Luffy vs. Gutts ? Luffy...

    @Lizard: Wow, I didn't see you post in ages...

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    hinagikukatsura is offline Senior Member Respected Member
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    @lizard

    I don't think Shiki's ability are restricted to supernatural foes. Besides Shirou's Gradiation Mage Craft ability (ability to create something out of nothing) can be considered supernatural so I think he'd be in that category.

    To beat Shiki, Shirou might have to rely on ranged attacks because I don't think it's wise to come close to Shiki even if their "on par" when it comes to fighting because Shiki can cut through his swords like hot knife to butter. Also I think Shirou would be troubled thinking on how Shiki could destroy his weapons that he strived to create one after another so I think Shiki would have the advantage mentally.

    On the topic about Shirou's enemies surpassing Shiki... is that true? I mean the enemies Shiki fought so far were Arcued, Nero, Roa, Kouma, Ciel and Tatari. All of those I mentioned could annhiliate servants except Saber (because of her avalon)

    If Shirou would conjure his Unlimited Blade Works reality marble Shiki can just pierce its point and destroy its world. Remember that he can destroy magic and reality marbles. It's true that Shirou indeed has more varieties of weapons but those would be rendered meaningless if they would just get cut upon contact with Shiki's knife and it's not that hard. Remember that he already fought Nero who was just as fast as Arcued who breaks the sound barrier.

    I'm also a big Shirou fan but I really can't imagine him winning against Nanaya. Especially the Shiki in Ciel's route where Arcued gives him some of her blood which is assumed to have strenghtened him more to the point where he can cut souls.

    In the battle of Harem however... Shirou wins hands down when it comes to quality Saber, Rin, Sakura and Illya are the masterpieces of Type Moon compared to Ciel, Arcued, Akiha and the maids. In quantity however Shiki wins no question he still has Sion and Aoko.

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    What's funnier? jamie's post or this:

    Quote Originally Posted by hinagikukatsura View Post
    and that answers my question how?
    Unless of course hinagikukatsura was playing dumb.
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    Wasn't there some sort of an anti-vs. thread rule passed awhile ago, or did that just apply to the Narutard subforum?


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    The latter, I think. Certainly, it wasn't passed on to the Misc/General forums.

    Besides, that wouldn't stop a pregnant Ranma thread.
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